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re: This proposed district map of Louisiana is absolutely nuts

Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67123 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:11 pm to
Boustany also had a sex scandal.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28824 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:13 pm to
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And if North Louisiana can't justify two districts with their population losses, they should not be borrowing voters from Tangipahoa or Cameron parish to keep their seats.


That's not why the lines are drawn that way.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:15 pm to
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This map is 100% about Jeff Landry taking out Garrett Graves.



He's pissing off a lot of people just to do this.

Already off to a bad start if he follows through with this threat of throwing him into an impossible district.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:23 pm to
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The branches of the state party which backed David Vitter or Bobby Jindal back in the day are STILL fighting each other tooth and nail.



This is fricking nuts. Republican governor and legislature and this is what we are focused on for the first month?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Or draw the maps with two “minority majority” districts that are 51% black and dare the court to challenge it.



I'm okay with that if they can do it without gerrymandering.

The courts requirement is that we gerrymander the hell out of our state. The blacks voters are spread out all over the place and it's extremely difficult to have a logical, concise district of about 750,000 people that is majority black - much less two of them.

What the court is demanding is not logical and likely illegal.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
2829 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:30 pm to
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quote: This map is 100% about Jeff Landry taking out Garrett Graves. He's pissing off a lot of people just to do this. Already off to a bad start if he follows through with this threat of throwing him into an impossible district.


…Read an article that mentioned it has something to do with getting rid or changing Supreme Court of LA too
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

I thought the Supreme Court threw out racial gerrymandering some years ago.




Yeah, but this is court ordered racial discrimination gerrymandering to benefit a specific race. Totally different...
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:37 pm to
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This map is 100% about Jeff Landry taking out Garrett Graves.


So, Landry told the leftist judge to gerrymander a district to create a racially biased district because of graves? How does that make sense?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71183 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:43 pm to
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So, Landry told the leftist judge to gerrymander a district to create a racially biased district because of graves? How does that make sense?


The federal judge ignored standing precedent and required 2 racially gerrymandered districts.

You could achieve this with a more reasonable 5th in Northeast Louisiana being the other district, but Landry wants the lost seat to be Graves.

In order to meet both goals you need the screwy map.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:45 pm to
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So, Landry told the leftist judge to gerrymander a district to create a racially biased district because of graves? How does that make sense?


1. Judge tells state to add minority district. Had nothing to do with Graves.

2. Instead of fighting in court, Landry decides to use this to screw over Graves.

That's how it makes "sense."
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26438 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:46 pm to
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You could achieve this with a more reasonable 5th in Northeast Louisiana being the other district

There aren’t enough blacks in North La to create a geographically logical black district up there. Hence why all of the maps have to combine Shreveport with NBR.

The whole premise is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6781 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:47 pm to
Dems LOVE gerrymandering, but still project on Republicans
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26438 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Instead of fighting in court, Landry decides to use this to screw over Graves.

The OP is one proposed map. It will not be the final choice.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:51 pm to
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You could achieve this with a more reasonable 5th in Northeast Louisiana being the other district, but Landry wants the lost seat to be Graves.

In order to meet both goals you need the screwy map.


The legislature is redrawing the map, not the Governor. This is the same personal gripe so many had with Landry during his campaign. Certain posters have deep personal issues with him and will stop at nothing to blame him for everything.

If the districts aren't redrawn then the liberal judge will appoint someone. The judge gave them a deadline. How is this Landry's fault?

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:52 pm to
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The OP is one proposed map. It will not be the final choice.


Want to make a meaningless wager for bragging rights?

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:52 pm to
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2. Instead of fighting in court, Landry decides to use this to screw over Graves.


Judge ordered a 2nd majority black district. Where do the majority of black residents reside?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26438 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:53 pm to
Sure. I bet you a bajillion dollars that map won’t be the final one.

I’d wager the final one will be somehow even worse. It’s going to be Frankenstein bullshite in any event.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36057 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Judge ordered a 2nd majority black district. Where do the majority of black residents reside?


Nowhere, everywhere.

Blacks reside throughout the state. There aren’t any areas that would allow for two black districts without networking parishes in different areas of the state.

Currently the majority black district includes parts of BR and NO with several if the River parishes.

To create a second majority district is even more problematic.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36057 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:03 pm to
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The legislature is redrawing the map, not the Governor. This is the same personal gripe so many had with Landry during his campaign. Certain posters have deep personal issues with him and will stop at nothing to blame him for everything.
If the districts aren't redrawn then the liberal judge will appoint someone. The judge gave them a deadline. How is this Landry's fault?


The issue isn’t Landry’s fault, but he elected to get involved and selected a plan to endorse.

Why did he choose this plan to back and not one of the others? It certainly looks flawed.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:03 pm to
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There aren’t any areas that would allow for two black districts without networking parishes in different areas of the state.



I agree, however, EBR has a large black population. That just so happens to be Garrett Graves district. While EBR itself doesn't have enough of that population to create a district within EBR by itself, it does have a large portion of whatever gerry mandered district they create. Thus Graves district being affected by this rezoning isn't unusual, and the lashing out at Landry over this is nonsensical and goes back to many posters personal issues they have with Landry.

I'm not even a big Landry fan, but the intense hatred some have against him is strange.
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