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This proposed district map of Louisiana is absolutely nuts

Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:30 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:30 am
Draw a circle around the major metro areas first - each should have at least one home district with approx 750,000 residents. If it's purple, blue or red - so be it. Break it up by geographic or cultural regions as much as possible.

And if North Louisiana can't justify two districts with their population losses, they should not be borrowing voters from Tangipahoa or Cameron parish to keep their seats.

And Baton Rouge gets absolutely fricked in this map with the metro area being split into 4 districts - all of them based elsewhere.

Johnson (speaker of the House) has his district almost split into two by the new district 6 map, which is crazy.

Our current map is dumb. This one is even dumber.

This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:36 am
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
2780 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:33 am to
All maps proposed are going to look stupid. They should just draw four squares and be done
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:47 am to
So which of those colors are the areas to avoid? Seems like the colors that look like they are just connecting the dots and sprawling the map randomly are representing the hoods?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:48 am to
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All maps proposed are going to look stupid.


These maps just show where the minorities are. That pink definitely took in Shreveport.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:50 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:48 am to
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:49 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51489 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:49 am to
This is because the black population of the state is so widely dispersed that you can't draw a map with 2 majority black districts without a ridiculous amount of gerrymandering. It's geographically impossible.

So then the question becomes: are maps being drawn to represent the people of that area or are they being drawn to represent races?

It can't be both.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:50 am
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:49 am to
Culturally, that map ain't bad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:49 am to
This is making the rounds on my LC-centric FB sphere. People are MELTING at being a pawn of Shreveport instead of Lafayette and "losing" Clay Higgins.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:51 am to
quote:

This is because the black population of the state is so widely dispersed that you can't draw a map with 2 majority black districts without a ridiculous amount of gerrymandering. It's geographically impossible.

Yeah I have been waiting for the monstrosities to be released for this very reason.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68454 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:51 am to
Racism everywhere
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:52 am to
Agree, it's crazy.

However, and I am not sure it's planned this way, it might be crazy like a fox. That is, the district is SO bad as to be considered a racial gerrymander and get thrown out.

They should really just go with Mike Johnson's idea and refuse to change until all legal avenues have been exhausted.



Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26074 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:52 am to
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This is because the black population of the state is so widely dispersed that you can't draw a map with 2 majority black districts without a ridiculous amount of gerrymandering. It's geographically impossible.

This. These court rulings are abysmal for reality. Under no circumstance should North Baton Rouge share a congressional district with Natchitoches and Shreveport.

There should only be two governing principles in redistricting: population and the retention of existing administrative boundaries.

Nothing else. Its time for software to take this over.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:54 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:52 am to
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They should really just go with Mike Johnson's idea and refuse to change until all legal avenues have been exhausted.

Then you're going to get an Obama-appointed federal judge appointing a special master to draw the maps
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13808 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:55 am to
This type shite will continue the destruction of this country.

Going to Jackson.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:55 am to
Bogalusa and Bawcomville being in the same district is fricking dumb. Same for Shreveport and BR
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9583 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:57 am to
Just give inner BR and inner Nola a district
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9583 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:59 am to
quote:

This is because the black population of the state is so widely dispersed that you can't draw a map with 2 majority black districts without a ridiculous amount of gerrymandering.
Baton Rouge and parts of Nola are majority black. It's very easy to do
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7059 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:00 am to
I thought the Supreme Court threw out racial gerrymandering some years ago.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19298 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:01 am to
quote:

This is because the black population of the state is so widely dispersed that you can't draw a map with 2 majority black districts without a ridiculous amount of gerrymandering. It's geographically impossible.


Which is interesting because the Supreme Court decision said a "minority group must be sufficiently large and [geographically] compact to constitute a majority in a reasonably configured district.”

These districts don't seem to meet the geographically compact and reasonably configured district requirements.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94915 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:04 am to
quote:

These districts don't seem to meet the geographically compact and reasonably configured district requirements.


They don’t but the courts are also demanding that these districts exist.


If this were the early 90s and Orleans Parish were one minority majority district by itself, it MIGHT be possible to draw one which isn’t completely fricking stupid.

Granted, they drew the Cleo Fields “Zorro” district which got thrown out in court in their attempt.


As the map shows, trying to build this district means going pretty much from BR to
Shreveport in order to hit both the population requirements and the percentage of black voters.

That shouldn’t stand but it is also less stupid than the previous attempt, which went Shreveport to Monroe to Baker to Bogalusa.
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