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Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:09 pm to BugAC
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I agree, however, EBR has a large black population. That just so happens to be Garrett Graves district.
That’s incorrect. Much of BR proper is not in Graves’ district, its in Roy Carter’s second district.
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While EBR itself doesn't have enough of that population to create a district within EBR by itself, it does have a large portion of whatever gerry mandered district they create. Thus Graves district being affected by this rezoning isn't unusual, and the lashing out at Landry over this is nonsensical and goes back to many posters personal issues they have with Landry.
Look at the current situation and the revised situation and Graves’ district is gone.
There are other options.
Now I can’t tell you why Landry decided to go with this one, but he did. What’s he saying?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:10 pm to BugAC
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Did he chose it? Or is this another proposed map?
Everything I read says he decided to back this one. There are others.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:14 pm to member12
Ascension is split between district 1 & 2. None is in district 6 now…. So although apart of BR metro economically, it’s not tied to its economic area…
Fight the judge, draw based on economic/ cultural basis…
Fight the judge, draw based on economic/ cultural basis…
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:17 pm to doubleb
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Now I can’t tell you why Landry decided to go with this one, but he did. What’s he saying?
Nothing because the legislature draws the maps.
A second black district HAS to be centered on BR. Of course it impacts Graves.
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There are other options.
No, there aren’t. All options are terrible.
There’s no other place to put a bastard district like idiot Shelly Dick ordered.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:23 pm to Indefatigable
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Sure. I bet you a bajillion dollars that map won’t be the final one.
I’d wager the final one will be somehow even worse. It’s going to be Frankenstein bullshite in any event.
Tough to bet against that!
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:24 pm to Indefatigable
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Nothing because the legislature draws the maps.
Sorry Landry chose one plan over other plans. He is taking ownership of this plan. Hee Ed gas you have a reason for picking this plan and not another.
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A second black district HAS to be centered on BR. Of course it impacts Graves.
No it doesn’t because the black precincts in EBR are in Troy Carter’s district. BR ( the city) is already in a minority district.
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No, there aren’t. All options are terrible. There’s no other place to put a bastard district like idiot Shelly Dick ordered.
That’s your opinion, but linking Shreveport and BR is about as stupid as stupid gets.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:26 pm to doubleb
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That’s your opinion,
I mean it's kind of factual.
LA has 2 major metro areas (BR/Nola) with probably the majority of the black population. Then there are 3 lesser metro areas (Shreveport, Lafayette, LC). A district has to be contiguous, IIRC.
Making 2 "black" districts with our population and those parameters above isn't going to lead to normal results.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:29 pm to doubleb
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Sorry Landry chose one plan over other plans. He is taking ownership of this plan. Hee Ed gas you have a reason for picking this plan and not another.
There are no actual alternatives. Every possible map involves jeopardizes Graves’ district.
Setting aside the existing LA-2, It is not possible to draw an additional district around 750k people with a majority black population and not include much of Graves current district. Congressional districts have to be contiguous by law.
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No it doesn’t because the black precincts in EBR are in Troy Carter’s district. BR ( the city) is already in a minority district.
The district has to be contiguous. Thus absolutely having to carve up Graves’ district to create geographical continuity with blacks in Alexandria and Shreveport and or blacks along the river in NELA.
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That’s your opinion, but linking Shreveport and BR is about as stupid as stupid gets.
No, it is not. It’s fact based on census data.
I agree that it’s stupid beyond measure. But that’s what happens when idiot judges make political rulings.
Eta: why don’t you post a proposal that complies with the court’s order and doesn’t jeopardize Graves’ district. Make one on Dave’s Redistricting app if you have to (good luck with that by the way, I’ve tried for two years now)
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:35 pm to Indefatigable
That’s easy, you carve up Letlow’s district. That’s what the black dems (minus Cleo) want.
I’ll post the bill in a bit.
I’ll post the bill in a bit.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:36 pm to BigJim
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That’s easy, you carve up Letlow’s district. That’s what the black dems (minus Cleo) want.
Show me the map then. There are NOT 375,001 black people in Letlow’s district. Her district is already an abomination as is.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:43 pm to Indefatigable
LINK
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They make her district stretch down to north Baton Rouge.
Is it great? No, but it's less of an abomination than having EBR go up to Shreveport, for goodness' sake.
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They make her district stretch down to north Baton Rouge.
Is it great? No, but it's less of an abomination than having EBR go up to Shreveport, for goodness' sake.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:44 pm to Jimbeaux
Don't get me wrong, drawing lines based on black, yellow, trans is retarded.
But, those areas are regions that are similar. You've got NOLA/north shore, river parishes, Cajuns, Red River/LA 1, western country baws, eastern country baws.
But, those areas are regions that are similar. You've got NOLA/north shore, river parishes, Cajuns, Red River/LA 1, western country baws, eastern country baws.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:45 pm to Indefatigable
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There are no actual alternatives. Every possible map involves jeopardizes Graves’ district.
No they do not. Others do but some do not.
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Setting aside the existing LA-2, It is not possible to draw an additional district around 750k people with a majority black population and not include much of Graves current district
Blacks are not a large part of Graves’ sixth district. They are not needed to make a second minority district.
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The district has to be contiguous. Thus absolutely having to carve up Graves’ district to create geographical continuity with blacks in Alexandria and Shreveport and or blacks along the river in NELA.
So what? Half of EBR is not in Graves’ district.
You do not need those Graves precincts to make a minority district.
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No, it is not. It’s fact based on census data.
All the plans submitted in the legislature are based on the census. Landry chose to push one if the plans. Why? Has he said why?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:47 pm to member12
This map has me sharing a district with Baton Rouge, Shreveport and Opelousas.
Hello Congressman Gravy Chambers. My name is 4x4tiger and I have something to talk to you about.
Gravy: Frick you white supremacist
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:48 pm to BigJim
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They make her district stretch down to north Baton Rouge. Is it great? No, but it's less of an abomination than having EBR go up to Shreveport, for goodness' sake.
Thanks Jim for supporting my position. That is a better plan.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:48 pm to BigJim
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They make her district stretch down to north Baton Rouge.
And plenty of South Baton Rouge.
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Is it great? No, but it's less of an abomination than having EBR go up to Shreveport, for goodness' sake.
Meh. I find both to be equal abominations. South BR and Bogalusa sharing a district with Morehouse Parish is no better than NBR sharing one with Shreveport.
If this is truly an issue for Graves, he’ll just run for a different district
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:50 pm to Indefatigable
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Nothing because the legislature draws the maps.
Come on man.
Landry backed a map. There isn’t enough time for the legislature to buck him and pass their own map, have him veto it, then override the veto or try another map.
They have one shot and it only works if they pass the map he is backing.
Landry is the head of the Republicans in LA now. The legislature is going to do his bidding.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:51 pm to doubleb
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That is a better plan.
Unless you are literally Garret Graves, how is that better?
It has all the faults of the OP’s map.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
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There isn’t enough time for the legislature to buck him and pass their own map, have him veto it, then override the veto or try another map.
He isn’t going to veto anything.
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