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NYT openly states that CDC is overstating recent COVID deaths

Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:54 pm
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15786 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:54 pm
Saw this floating around Twitter and haven't seen it here yet.

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The official number is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death. Other C.D.C. data suggests that almost one-third of official recent Covid deaths have fallen into this category. A study published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases came to similar conclusions.


With as much as they know about COVID now, they're still overstating deaths by as much as 33%. How badly were they overstating it during 2020?

NYT

Yesterday's conspiracy is today's news. Again.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9527 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:56 pm to
Pure blood checking in
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29227 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:58 pm to
The NYT?! How dare you link it, everything they write is false deep state propaganda!
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
3863 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 9:59 pm to
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With as much as they know about COVID now, they're still overstating deaths by as much as 33%. How badly were they overstating it during 2020?

Enough to bludgeon the gullible sheep with deadly fear porn that enabled democrats to openly circumvent state election laws to swing the 2020 election with unfettered, unverified mail in ballots.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45372 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:00 pm to
They knew this three years ago and knowingly lied about it for political purposes.

The NYT is not honest journalism.

It’s a hack political propaganda organization.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
3863 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:04 pm to
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With as much as they know about COVID now, they're still overstating deaths by as much as 33%. How badly were they overstating it during 2020?

Enough to bludgeon the gullible sheep with deadly fear porn that enabled democrats to openly circumvent state election laws to swing the 2020 election with unfettered, unverified mail in ballots.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5434 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:09 pm to
I’ll be called a radical nut job but I don’t think anybody died from a thing called “Covid”. They recategorized flu deaths as “Covid” deaths. They made up numbers for money. The rapid tests were total bullshite but they used them to put a death down as “Covid” even if they clearly died of another cause - cancer, heart disease, diabetes, even fricking accidental deaths. There is a video of a state of Illinois medical spokesperson literally stating this out loud in a press conference in 2020. I believe this happened hundreds of thousands of times nationwide in every state.

Covid death definition 2020
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6229 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:26 pm to
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don't think anybody died from COVID....flu


I think you're wrong..
Then again, I thought the lab leak was crazy.
Can't believe anything anymore.

Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6221 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:28 pm to
Likely a heavy overstatement, but no more mean tweets
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5434 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:45 pm to
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I think you're wrong


I’m not sure how I can be wrong when I’m linking the video where they admit it outright. Maybe there was a Covid virus. I’ll give you that as a stipulation just for argument’s sake. But it was survivable by 99% of people who got it. The numbers were highly inflated by hundreds of thousands for money and to whip the world and Americans into a frenzy of fear and to affect an election. You’ll never convince me otherwise.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2301 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:48 pm to
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think anybody died from a thing called “Covid”. They recategorized flu deaths as “Covid” deaths


So all those people who filled up the ICUs in 2020 with severe swelling of the lungs and trachea just had the flu?

Look, we obviously over reacted to the virus, and I think the death totals were overstated. But COVID-19 is a real, identifiable coronavirus (even if you believe it was created in a lab). People really did get infected with the COVID-19 virus, and some of them had such severe respiratory inflammation that they couldn't breathe, and died.

There really were people who died from COVID, and not just with COVID
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46350 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 10:49 pm to
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The NYT?! How dare you link it, everything they write is false deep state propaganda!




You need another booster of that MRNA Juice.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5434 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:05 pm to
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So all those people who filled up the ICUs in 2020 with severe swelling of the lungs and trachea just had the flu?


I was in the hospital twice in 2020 - in March and August at the height of the “pandemic” (non-Covid related illness). UAB, the largest hospital in Alabama. The ER was a ghost town and my floor was half full. But my TV told me bodies were being stacked in refrigerated trucks and sick people were lining the halls for lack of rooms. I saw the opposite with my own eyes.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6229 posts
Posted on 7/18/23 at 11:39 pm to
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survivable by 99%


Actually at least 99.6%.
I claimed that in March 2020, got roasted on here. That 0.4% death rate is almost all old/frail people. And, even that's inflated.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12957 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 6:27 am to
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The NYT?! How dare you link it, everything they write is false deep state propaganda!


Exactly, so we know that the real death rate was more likely 75% lower than stated by the CDC
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5307 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 6:49 am to
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even if you believe it was created in a lab


I didn’t know this was even up for debate any longer.
Posted by TiderTom
Pleasant Grove
Member since Apr 2011
386 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 6:59 am to
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I was in the hospital twice in 2020 - in March and August at the height of the “pandemic” (non-Covid related illness). UAB, the largest hospital in Alabama. The ER was a ghost town and my floor was half full. But my TV told me bodies were being stacked in refrigerated trucks and sick people were lining the halls for lack of rooms. I saw the opposite with my own eyes.


Same here but at Princeton hospital. I asked if I could go home to free the bed based on the news I was watching. Doc acted like I didn’t say anything about it and went back to talking about me. Later I asked again and he sighed, dropped his head and said “we have no idea where those videos came from. We’re at less than half capacity in the entire hospital”. He clearly didn’t want to talk about it anymore.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 7:01 am
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
2999 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:04 am to
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16245 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:06 am to
quote:

I was in the hospital twice in 2020 - in March and August at the height of the “pandemic” (non-Covid related illness). UAB, the largest hospital in Alabama. The ER was a ghost town and my floor was half full. But my TV told me bodies were being stacked in refrigerated trucks and sick people were lining the halls for lack of rooms. I saw the opposite with my own eyes.


This is not false.

I had hospital privileges at 5 locations and none of them were “full” at any point in the pandemic.

They were understaffed because people were freaking out. There were lots of female nurses who husbands and parents pushed them to “get out” of the hospital to protect themselves and they did.

The newspaper published statistics like “the beds are 97% full which was true BUT there were empty units that they had closed to deal with staff shortages.

Hospitals were never full.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29487 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:06 am to
Conspiracy theorists were right again
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