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re: NYT openly states that CDC is overstating recent COVID deaths
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:16 am to Dday63
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:16 am to Dday63
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Look, we obviously over reacted to the virus,
Absolutely.
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and I think the death totals were overstated.
Not “think” - they were by large magnitudes.
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But COVID-19 is a real, identifiable coronavirus
Correct.
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(even if you believe it was created in a lab).
Not believe. It was created in a lab. If you don’t believe this, you will never see the truth.
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People really did get infected with the COVID-19 virus, and some of them had such severe respiratory inflammation that they couldn't breathe, and died.
Correct. Very sad.
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There really were people who died from COVID, and not just with COVID
Correct. Very sad.
But the totality of this situation - our lasting anger - is based on the government creating a virus (I believe it accidentally got out, it was not a planned attack) and using the opportunity to take away bodily autonomy, free speech, free practice of religion, and the right to work and self determination.
The COVID response was the largest attack on our freedom in this countries history.
That is why we take it so personally.
They suppressed our speech.
They denied us access to our parents in assisted living.
They did not allow us to mourn our relatives.
They forced a medical treatment on us.
They prevented us from getting cancer detected earlier.
They shut down small business and left large ones open.
They exponentially expanded poverty and forced a generation of children out of school. That will impact their learning forever.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:19 am to TerryDawg03
I had an elderly family member pass in the hospital in 2020. They tested her four times for covid and it was negative each time. When she finally passed they put covid as a cause of death because "she showed all the signs" and the tests "aren't always accurate". BS
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:45 am to DavidTheGnome
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The NYT?! How dare you link it, everything they write is false deep state propaganda!
Great point. If the NYT is stating 30% over counting, it’s likely closer to 80%.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 7:45 am
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:53 am to TerryDawg03
OP, is NYT saying current or 2022-2023 COVID deaths are overstated by 33%? Or are they talking about 2020-2021?
If 2020 I would say a lot more than 33% were overstated.
ETA: Oh never mind...I see in your post it says "recent".
If 2020 I would say a lot more than 33% were overstated.
ETA: Oh never mind...I see in your post it says "recent".
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 7:55 am
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:55 am to DavidTheGnome
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The NYT?! How dare you link it, everything they write is false deep state propaganda!
Well what’s funny is they are the ones that told me Ukraine was full of Nazis. So maybe Russian propaganda?
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:57 am to Dday63
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There really were people who died from COVID, and not just with COVID
And died from the vaccines.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:00 am to jp4lsu
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ETA: Oh never mind...I see in your post it says "recent".
I think I read where the cdc is still listing thousands hospitalized for covid every week.
Yeah July 8th week 6k hospitalized.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:11 pm to SECdragonmaster
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The newspaper published statistics like “the beds are 97% full which was true BUT there were empty units that they had closed to deal with staff shortages. Hospitals were never full.
I failed to mention that on my way out of the hospital I walked past multiple nursing stations and entire floors that were shut down and dark. It was so surreal. Nothing matched up with what we were being told.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:16 pm to TerryDawg03
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NYT openly states that CDC is overstating recent COVID deaths. With as much as they know about COVID now, they're still overstating deaths by as much as 33%. How badly were they overstating it during 2020?
NYT
Yesterday's conspiracy is today's news. Again.
Who in fedgov is ultimately responsible for the CDC?
Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:20 pm to Bass Tiger
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You need another booster of that MRNA Juice.
Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:29 pm to Dday63
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COVID-19 is a real, identifiable coronavirus (THAT WAS created in a lab).
FIFY!
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People really did get infected with the COVID-19 virus, and some of them had such severe respiratory inflammation that they couldn't breathe, and died.
And still, there has been NO repercussions whatsoever for the wholly corrupted entities in both our nation’s national security apparatus and our nation’s public health industrial complex that unleashed this virus upon the world
Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:33 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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I’ll be called a radical nut job but I don’t think anybody died from a thing called “Covid”. They recategorized flu deaths as “Covid” deaths. They made up numbers for money. The rapid tests were total bull shite but they used them to put a death down as “Covid” even if they clearly died of another cause - cancer, heart disease, diabetes, even fricking accidental deaths. There is a video of a state of Illinois medical spokesperson literally stating this out loud in a press conference in 2020. I believe this happened hundreds of thousands of times nationwide in every state.
Spot on accurate.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:20 am to DavidTheGnome
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The NYT?! How dare you link it, everything they write is false deep state propaganda!
quote:Christ alfrickingmighty you’re so goddamn stupid
DavidTheGnome
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:34 am to Dday63
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So all those people who filled up the ICUs in 2020 with severe swelling of the lungs and trachea just had the flu?
Didn't happen. I guess you didn't know they manipulated the ICU Bed Count as well.
The swelling of the lungs and trachea was after they put 'em on Remdesivir & intubation, and right before the RDV killed the kidneys & the vent imploded the lungs.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:43 am to Lawyered
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Conspiracy theorists were right again
I know we're undefeated, but with all of these back-to-back wins I've lost track of the actual number.
Does anyone know if the Vegas oddsmakers have a category for this, or should I just ask my bookie?
Posted on 7/20/23 at 6:50 am to Mac Power
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I had an elderly family member pass in the hospital in 2020. They tested her four times for covid and it was negative each time. When she finally passed they put covid as a cause of death because "she showed all the signs" and the tests "aren't always accurate". BS
That’s because it paid more to have a patient admitted and die of Covid. The Medicare reimbursement was higher. So even if someone came in broken up in a car wreck, had the sniffles, and died on the table…. Covid. Because it paid more.
That’s the reason for the overcount. Medicaid fraud perpetrated by the hospitals and nursing homes. That, once they are buried, cannot be disproven.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 6:57 am
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