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Who still thinks Trump should move on from 2020 election fraud ?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:22 pm
To me this is the biggest issue going into midterms and 2024 . Why do people think he should move on ? Why do people think not talking about is going to change anything in 2022 and 2024 after seeing what they are doing currently to Lake in AZ? Not talking about it is what the establishment wants ,and people abide by it .
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:25 pm to Jspaspa3303
What makes you think they will never steal another election if he never speaks another word???
We have to stand for something or we will fall for anything.
We have to stand for something or we will fall for anything.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:29 pm to Jspaspa3303
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Who still thinks Trump should move on from 2020 election fraud ?
No, he should not move on from the biggest scam on the American people in our lifetime.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:30 pm to Jspaspa3303
Dupes who buy the political comity bs. And TDS anti-Trumpers that would see this Nation go down before seeing Trump lead a successful effort to save it.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:33 pm to Jspaspa3303
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Who still thinks Trump should move on from 2020 election fraud ?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:37 pm to Jspaspa3303
No he should hammer the point and keep pressing till democrats pay for their crimes
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:39 pm to Jspaspa3303
What do you mean, "move on"? Should we just allow open, unsigned ballots to be counted? Should we allow muled ballots or ballots where security and chain of custody are broken? How about ballots post marked after an election, or names that show up in multiple states? Or hundreds of ballots registered to empty lots in Philly? How about procedurally? Let Governors unilaterally change election laws in the days before an election? Allow poll watchers to be kicked out, mail-ins to be held until MOVs can be determined? Continue to allow for hackable voting machines?
We should just shut up about all that because of the media hissy? This is the problem with the neocon RINO right. You let the media wear you down, and you give up the fight.
We should just shut up about all that because of the media hissy? This is the problem with the neocon RINO right. You let the media wear you down, and you give up the fight.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:39 pm to Jspaspa3303
The way I see it is neither he should move on from it, nor should ANYONE else. Ever.
It should be emblazoned into our K-12 school curriculum as a reminder of how corrupt we allowed ourselves to be.
It should be emblazoned into our K-12 school curriculum as a reminder of how corrupt we allowed ourselves to be.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:41 pm to Jspaspa3303
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To me this is the biggest issue going into midterms and 2024 . Why do people think he should move on ? Why do people think not talking about is going to change anything in 2022 and 2024 after seeing what they are doing currently to Lake in AZ? Not talking about it is what the establishment wants ,and people abide by it .
Because I don't know if the election was stolen or not and neither do you.
Trump needs to let go. The way he continues to comport himself with all this shite is undignified and petulant.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:45 pm to Jspaspa3303
Because reforming our election systems should be near the top of the priority list.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:46 pm to Jspaspa3303
I get why he and many of us are still pissed but collectively we have a 2022 midterm and 2024 GE to win.....it's time to quit whining and start kicking these anti America POS Groomers asses.
BTW...if R's take the House and Senate I expect a shite ton of investigations beginning in 2023 but to fixate on a rigged election.....it's too late now and in the next three months all the 2020 election records can be legally destroyed and I guarantee what hasn't been destroyed already will certainly be destroyed by the time republicans can do any legitimate investigations into the 2020 election shenanigans.
BTW...if R's take the House and Senate I expect a shite ton of investigations beginning in 2023 but to fixate on a rigged election.....it's too late now and in the next three months all the 2020 election records can be legally destroyed and I guarantee what hasn't been destroyed already will certainly be destroyed by the time republicans can do any legitimate investigations into the 2020 election shenanigans.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:48 pm to Jspaspa3303
It has to be fixed or else the dem fraud will just continue.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:50 pm to Jspaspa3303
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Who still thinks Trump should move on from 2020 election fraud ?
Its not so much that I think he should move on, as much as I believe that the 2020 election should not necessarily be the only political message going into the midterms, or 2024. It is possible to pursue the fraud without making every election in the country a proxy vote on whether or not 2020 was legitimate. Doing so gives the media too much room to paint the entire right as deranged insurrectionists.
Go after the fraud at the state and local level, absolutely. But that has to be balanced with actually winning elections, or it does not matter. And in the context of gaining ground in the midterms, it means talking about issues that matter to the constituents in individual districts. Not all districts are equally invested in the 2020 election fraud issue.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:51 pm to Jspaspa3303
We should NEVER stop talking about the integrity of voting.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:54 pm to Jspaspa3303
He’ll no.
The election system needs major reform. Transparency and impossibility of manipulation.
The election system needs major reform. Transparency and impossibility of manipulation.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:54 pm to Jspaspa3303
I'll be your huckleberry.
If he is going to talk about it, he needs to be pointed and articulate about it.
If he's just going to repeat the line "We won, we won bigly" it's just an empty bloviation. People for the most part already have their minds made up, there was cheating that put Biden in office, or there wasn't enough cheating to put Biden in office. He isn't going to change any hearts and minds by simply claiming it was stolen over and over. If he's going to talk aobut it, it needs to be in specific terms, like- "Here are fourteen sworn affidavits from the poll workers that said people were rescanning the same Biden ballots over and over, here they are, read them. Here is verified video showing poll workers handing out sharpies to voters when the instructions are to not use sharpies or they won't be scanned- all in heavy republican areas." Etc. He needs to echo what the experts have already uncovered, if he wants to actually convince anyone on the fence that it was stolen. But I don't think there's many people on the fence to begin with. And I don't think there are people on one side who will change their mind from what they already believe on the subject. Some, yes. How many, I don't think many.
If he is going to talk about it, he needs to be pointed and articulate about it.
If he's just going to repeat the line "We won, we won bigly" it's just an empty bloviation. People for the most part already have their minds made up, there was cheating that put Biden in office, or there wasn't enough cheating to put Biden in office. He isn't going to change any hearts and minds by simply claiming it was stolen over and over. If he's going to talk aobut it, it needs to be in specific terms, like- "Here are fourteen sworn affidavits from the poll workers that said people were rescanning the same Biden ballots over and over, here they are, read them. Here is verified video showing poll workers handing out sharpies to voters when the instructions are to not use sharpies or they won't be scanned- all in heavy republican areas." Etc. He needs to echo what the experts have already uncovered, if he wants to actually convince anyone on the fence that it was stolen. But I don't think there's many people on the fence to begin with. And I don't think there are people on one side who will change their mind from what they already believe on the subject. Some, yes. How many, I don't think many.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 2:59 pm to Jspaspa3303
I will not rest until this issue is addressed and the perpetrators are held accountable.
All of them. From Liz Cheney to Stacy Abrahams to Brad Raffensberger to Cindy McCain. Every. single. one.
If Trump moves on from it - he’s dead to me too.
All of them. From Liz Cheney to Stacy Abrahams to Brad Raffensberger to Cindy McCain. Every. single. one.
If Trump moves on from it - he’s dead to me too.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:02 pm to Jspaspa3303
No and needs to be talked about more. Whatever Trump does, he needs to stay on it. Whether he’s prez again or not, he will go down in history as the man who saved our country. Nov will be a blood bath for the Dems. The more I get out and talk to people, of all walks of life, outside my zone, the more I’m convinced.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:10 pm to Jspaspa3303
frick no, if you move on it continues only pussies want to move on. Conservatives are frickING WEAK arse MOTHER frickERS!!!!!....fricking embarrassing
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:19 pm to Jspaspa3303
Trump should allow Congress to open up any election fraud investigation if they take back one or both chambers. They should go back and look at each election cycle going as far back as 2006 or 2008. Let’s see how many dead people was voting back then. If the R’s wanna catch election fraud or corruption then going back that far may be the best chance to catch it. Wasn’t anyone looking for any back then so they could have got sloppy on the way they hid it. It wouldn’t be a waste of time for R’s to look at everything and see how we can improve the system and cut out as much fraud as possible.
Trump should let the R’s in Congress do all this though. Trump himself should stay focused on the issues and tell people his solutions and policies to get us out of this mess the Dems has made. Trump should try and stay above it all and let his allies in Congress do all the elbow throwing about the 2020 election.
Trump should let the R’s in Congress do all this though. Trump himself should stay focused on the issues and tell people his solutions and policies to get us out of this mess the Dems has made. Trump should try and stay above it all and let his allies in Congress do all the elbow throwing about the 2020 election.
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