re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Most of us realize that this is one of the few times in this crazy world where things actually are black and white. There is a clear right side to support. But we have a few douche bags who want to be edgy and root for the clear aggressor because they don’t like the current administration (neither do I).

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This thread is a bubble and anything that isn’t cheerleading for and painting the rosiest picture possible for Ukraine is derided and pushed out.

Okay buddy

Here’s a post of mine saying zelensky fricked up bitching about Poland, upvoted 8-1 at time of linking

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Here’s a post of mine saying Ukraine is not getting all of its land plus a DMZ in crimea back, 50/50 ratio with a reasoned response from an actual UA cheerleader, GOPtiger

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Here’s a post of mine saying things are not going to plan for UA, strategically. Upvoted 12-1

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Maybe you’re just a retard

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This thread is a bubble and anything that isn’t cheerleading for and painting the rosiest picture possible for Ukraine is derided and pushed out.

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Liar. You know better.

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Ukrainian forces are deepening their penetration in Zaporizhia Oblast and are assaulting Novoprokopivka – a frontline village 1.5 km immediately south of Robotyne.

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I want to get excited about progress, but 1.5 km is me walking 4 blocks to the grocery store and back.

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I want to get excited about progress, but 1.5 km is me walking 4 blocks to the grocery store and back.

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Come on, it’s over .93 miles!!!!
Lol

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but until you have a son who was KIA, you all can frick off

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sorry to hear about your son KiA

Tell us his story

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quote:99% of the followers of this thread understand that they have no impact on this war. Choose to have no impact. They could head over and volunteer.

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Choose to have no impact. They could head over and volunteer.

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I would say 100% of the posters here didn’t volunteer to fight, but I could be wrong.

If you follow the war, you want Ukraine to win, and you believe Russia should quit invading their neighbors; you can only do that and volunteer to go fight?

Really???

Since there seems to be a demand today for comments that are negative towards Ukraine, I'll make one: Ukraine's offensive along the Velyka Novosilka - Staromlynivka axis has culminated.





It's been about a month since Ukraine captured Urozhaine in a bloody fight that was costly to both sides. In the aftermath, I posted that we would have to wait and see how the losses affected both sides, but I speculated that the Russian losses would be more costly, and that Ukraine would continue to advance, and that Russia would have significant difficulty defending Zavitne Bazhannia due to the Yakri Moli River.

I also concluded that Ukraine had time to take Staromlynivka before the start of mud season. Staromlynivka is the key hub in the immediate area, with roads going west, east, and southeast. Taking it would also allow Ukraine to keep Mariupol in consistent HIMARS range (Ukraine can hit Mariupol now, but it means pushing a HIMARS closer to the front, firing, and then pulling it back).

I was wrong about all of that.

In the last month, Ukraine has been able to do nothing in this sector. Attacks toward Zavitne Bazhannia have been repulsed.

In the western part of the sector, Russia actually pushed Ukraine way back from Pryyutne, only for Ukraine to eventually take that territory back. But Ukraine still can't push into the town -- they've tried a couple of times.

About two weeks ago, Ukraine decided to initiate serious attempts to take Novodonetske and Novomaiorske. These are towns that Ukraine attempted to take on the very first day of the offensive and failed. Taking either of them would allow Ukraine to push towards the supply line to Staromlynivka (from Mariupol). But Ukraine's newest attempts have also failed, and Ukraine suffered a net loss of about ten armored vehicles in the process.

I honestly do not see any way that Ukraine can regain the initiative in this sector. They put inferior units on this front to begin with, and those units are now degraded.

To be fair, several weeks ago was also the time when we began to see reports quoting anonymous NATO officials advising Ukraine to concentrate on the Robotyne/Verbove area. It's possible that Ukrainian units in the Staromlynivka area have been receiving fewer munitions as a result of Ukraine concentrating more on the axis to the west of this one.

In any case, the offensive appears to be over in this sector, at least for now.

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Essentially he doesn't believe we have seen a true breakthrough yet, just breaches.

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One question I've had some trouble understanding from an execution standpoint is a front line exists in a trench system. I guess there is a no man's land in the middle of the trench and the forces occupy either side of it?