re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

I’m not butthurt. I won’t cry or cheer if the Ukrainians drive all the way to the sea in the next week. And let’s be real, the Ukrainians have made no significant progress and have payed dearly for it already. They don’t have any F-16s yet and the western MBTs don’t really seem to be making an impact.

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100% truth.

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Extremely naive, ignorant, insulting and frankly just incorrect. Telling other humans we simply view human life as if it were some enjoyable video game, and their lives mean nothing to us. I would say you two should be ashamed of yourselves, but I have a feeling that you each may not be capable. To just diminish our understanding and respect for life is utterly foolish, all because you disagree with our viewpoints. Just awful. I am politely restraining myself as to remain cordial, but a vile remark to apply to a broad swath of informed individuals who have true compassion and sympathy for the situation as a whole. None of of us want this, but since Russia initiated this, we support Ukraine in their right to fight for their sovereignty. To make such an ill placed leap is deplorable. Try and attempt to have more than a surface level thought that just rattles out of your close-minded thought process. Do better.

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Also the Ukrainian offensive is at best a failure. At worst a disaster.

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Can we get a breakdown on how the SMO is going???

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I’m not butthurt.

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I won’t cry or cheer if the Ukrainians drive all the way to the sea in the next week.

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It's the little things like that last part of your statement that reveal your level of butthurt.

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They don’t have any F-16s yet

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True

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the western MBTs don’t really seem to be making an impact.

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No shite Sherlock. Only naive ppl like certain posters here (not you btw), the ppl without military experience in the media, and the Biden administration trying to get a foreign policy win with the bare minimum of effort thought < 100 western MBTs would make a difference against one of the heaviest defensive lines in history. However, Ukraine is continuing to chip away at it, continuing to disrupt the Russian logistics network, taking down Russia's SAM defenses over southern Ukraine, and taking out Russia's leaders. The counteroffensive is far from over and it is bigger than just the attacks on the villages of Verbove and NP.

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It's the little things like that last part of your statement that reveal your level of butthurt.

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nah man. It could happen tomorrow, next week or 10 years from now and it really won’t affect my life. I just don’t have any emotional attachment to either side. I understand why you do though and I respect that you’re willing to put it on the line for your beliefs and your friends.

ideas need to be challenged. the rub arises when someone is a smug prick about being wrong 80% of the time.

he can’t help it though, his favorite flavor of crayon is purple (yes this is a usmc joke)

The speaker of the Canadian House, Anthony Rota, made an insanely stupid decision to invite someone who had served in the SS to be honored at Zelensky's speech.

Rota should resign.

It's not Zelensky's fault though, or even Trudeau's (as much as I dislike Trudeau). Rota had the guy introduced as a Ukrainian freedom fighter. Everyone clapping thought that he was was someone who had resisted Soviet occupation or something.

I do suppose, though, that by Poliboard rules, Canada is officially a Nazi country now.

Reuters news story on Rota

As for adrenochrome? Bless your heart.

Useful thread from ISW's George Barros about Ukrainian advances into Verbove and also north of the town. He quotes a lot of Russian Telegram:

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Special Operations Forces reveal Russian losses following destruction of Minsk landing ship and Black Sea Fleet HQ
VALENTYNA ROMANENKO — Monday, 25 September 2023, 13:36

The Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have reported that 34 Russian officers were killed in the attack on the headquarters of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet in occupied Sevastopol.

Source: press office of the Special Operations Forces (SOF)

Quote: "Updated information on enemy losses as a result of the SOF’s special operation to destroy the Minsk landing ship and the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation.

Because the Minsk landing ship was due to go on combat duty the next day, personnel were on board. Irretrievable losses amounted to 62 occupiers.

Following the destruction of the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, 34 officers died, including the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Another 105 occupiers were wounded. The headquarters building is beyond repair.

Ukrainska Pravda