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re: WSJ: Trump thought opening Hormuz Straight was imminent, Iran had other plans

Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:47 am to
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
6060 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:47 am to
The Strait is not closed in any real sense, and over time, there will be adjustments in perception that will result in Iran's power over commerce declining to near zero.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13719 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:51 am to
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want him to follow through.

Follow through with what?

What exactly do you want him to do?

Last week he bluffed with "the largest military operation since WW2" . The Iranians said: "OK, bring it."

And he backed off.

So tell me exactly what you want him to do.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
5466 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:52 am to
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It has been fascinating watching the goals of this war ever so gradually shift from destroying their nukes and getting "the dust", destroying their rocket launchers and capacity to manufacture rockets, cutting off their proxies, and regime change to......

Opening the Strait of Hormuz.

Now, the only goal we ever hear anything about is the Strait.


Yep….and at first it was “unconditional surrender”. Trump failed epically with Iran. Iran is toying with him now. What a buffoon.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85769 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:52 am to
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So tell me exactly what you want him to do.


Trump is going to take the L on Iran... just depends on when he realizes that and how much more American's have to pay before he does so.

Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3194 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:55 am to
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It has been fascinating watching the goals of this war ever so gradually shift


Fascinating, or depressing? Are we not all on the same side in agreement to annihilate the shite stain that is the leadership of Iran?
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69552 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:58 am to
Hank, the result is the same and just as advantageous for Iran…


The U.S. has succeeded militarily, but as the Vietnamese general responded when it was pointed out that the U.S. had won every tactical battle: “that may be true, but it’s irrelevant”.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5633 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:59 am to
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What I don’t understand is how the US can’t annihilate all of their Strait blocking operations?


Eye-ran has spent 40-something years building missile systems deep in the mountain areas plus ports for their mosquito boats.

Plus the chi-coms and rooskies have been smuggling weapons through Pakistan, the Caspian sea, A-Stan, surrounding areas and even Eye-rack.

Eye-ran is a large country, about 1/4 the size of the continental US.

Add in the fact that our so-called media is putting out propaganda trying to derail the whole operation.

The rats are doing their best to block, ambush DJT, and provide interference for the ccp, russians, and the IRGC.

You can bet that chyna and russia is feeding the IRGC intel, there are moles inside our operations.

chyna was caught trying to smuggle in shoulder-fired rocket systems. Its really easy for a bad guy to hide out with one of those and pop out quickly off a mountaintop and fire one off.

The IRGC and the mullahs know once this thing finally collapses, the Iranian people are going to be out for blood, and many will face brutal deaths. Many will face the same fate that Mussolini faced after the fall of the fascist in Italy in WWII.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2149 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:05 am to
Trump already has the W on Iran.

All objectives achieved.

Social media posts declaring Iran the victor can not really change that.
Posted by bamatrader
Member since May 2026
137 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:06 am to
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The IRGC and the mullahs know once this thing finally collapses, the Iranian people are going to be out for blood, and many will face brutal deaths. Many will face the same fate that Mussolini faced after the fall of the fascist in Italy in WWII.


pass some of that good shite this way!
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40676 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:09 am to
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What I don’t understand is how the US can’t annihilate all of their Strait blocking operations? Is it just that they still have a bunch of mines in the water? Seems like we could create a safe lane and let all ships know of that lane for safe passage.



Exactly. It's not anymore complicated than this.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40676 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:10 am to
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Well you sure do enjoy trying to claim victory for your Muslim friends



Is it just impossible for you to stick to the subject instead of making juvenile insults on others? Do you not have the intelligence to do this? You used to be a better poster.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3901 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:10 am to
Are you on topic? You’re worried about me. Clown
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69552 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:14 am to
“All objectives”? lolol
Nuclear program still exists as far as anyone knows, and the radical regime remains in power. The IRGC controls the government…
Posted by DRMPHD
College Station, Texas
Member since Jun 2018
295 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:15 am to
He's gone from we'll only accept unconditional surrender to complete capitulation that the Iranians refuse to accept because they believe they can get more. Worst negotiator ever!!!
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40676 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:16 am to
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Are you on topic? You’re worried about me. Clown



Honestly didn't expect you could answer the questions. You are a sad man. Good luck in life.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13719 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:16 am to
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The Strait is not closed in any real sense

In 2025 the Straight exported about $3 billion of Oil and about $1.5 billion of LNG per week.

Last week three tankers tried. One got through, one had to turn around, and one got blown up.

So roughly $5 billion a week has turned into something like $500 million a week.

And you say it's not effectively closed?
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40676 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:17 am to
This isn't all on Trump, he got some very bad intelligence.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3901 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:18 am to
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Honestly didn't expect you could answer the questions. You are a sad man. Good luck in life.


You’re the one so worried about me, ballsackguy
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
13036 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:19 am to
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I agree. Listen to Caine and GTFO there. Claim a win and go home.


Yeah. That’s correct. Time to leave.

But the issue is that the US bombing campaign caused the IRGC closing of the strait. So if there was a a sticking point, it would be about just leaving while the strait is closed or Iran is charging tolls.

The solution to that problem needs to be solved.

Don’t take the bait anything else.
Posted by DeplorableTerrorizer
Member since Nov 2025
350 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 11:21 am to
We have these things called cruisers and destroyers. On board is this ageis system. 4 of them running convoys at all times in the strait opens it right now. Amy shots taken results in Isreal being allowed to smoke the highest ranking irgc member they can find. Boom strait open
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