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WSJ: Trump thought opening Hormuz Straight was imminent, Iran had other plans
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:16 am
WSJ: Trump considering Iran Deal not tied to nuclear development
TLDR; Trump is likely to indefinitely extend the ceasefire and end the blockade if Iran opens the Straight for traffic, however Iran wants far more than ending the blockade as part of that deal.
“Iran’s recent hardline demands for reopening the strait make it increasingly difficult for the president to manufacture a face-saving off-ramp from the conflict,” said Mona Yacoubian, director of the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.
Gregory Brew, an Iran expert at the Eurasia Group consulting firm, said, “The Iranians fully believe Trump wants out and is focused on opening the strait, which is why they are playing hardball.”
Hanging over diplomatic talks since April has been the White House’s ultimatum that Iran will never obtain a nuclear weapon. Trump sought to include nuclear talks as part of broader negotiations with Iran, but those have proven too difficult, leading the White House in recent weeks to focus more on reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran’s ability to essentially choke off the waterway through sporadic missile and drone attacks has proven to be powerful leverage for the country, stalling commercial traffic and roiling global oil markets. Trump has declared repeatedly in recent weeks that the Strait of Hormuz was already fully open, but each of those promises has proven premature.
If the U.S. can keep the nuclear program in check and traffic resumes in the strait, then Trump is more likely to extend the current ceasefire indefinitely, the officials said. Trump also is expected to lift the U.S. military blockade on Iranian ports if Tehran fully reopens the strait, they added.
One major complication for the Trump administration is money. Iran is seeking billions of dollars in war reparations in addition to an agreement to unfreeze the country’s assets around the world. Trump has said the White House wouldn’t allow any taxpayer money to go to Iran, although a deal appears unlikely without the U.S. unfreezing some assets, possibly with conditions attached.
There also is a dispute about whether the U.S. should issue waivers to let Iran sell oil on the open market. The U.S. had agreed to the waivers last June as part of an interim peace agreement with Iran. That ceasefire fell apart after Iran attacked ships in the strait, and the U.S. reinstated sanctions on the Iranian oil trade.
TLDR; Trump is likely to indefinitely extend the ceasefire and end the blockade if Iran opens the Straight for traffic, however Iran wants far more than ending the blockade as part of that deal.
“Iran’s recent hardline demands for reopening the strait make it increasingly difficult for the president to manufacture a face-saving off-ramp from the conflict,” said Mona Yacoubian, director of the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.
Gregory Brew, an Iran expert at the Eurasia Group consulting firm, said, “The Iranians fully believe Trump wants out and is focused on opening the strait, which is why they are playing hardball.”
Hanging over diplomatic talks since April has been the White House’s ultimatum that Iran will never obtain a nuclear weapon. Trump sought to include nuclear talks as part of broader negotiations with Iran, but those have proven too difficult, leading the White House in recent weeks to focus more on reopening the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran’s ability to essentially choke off the waterway through sporadic missile and drone attacks has proven to be powerful leverage for the country, stalling commercial traffic and roiling global oil markets. Trump has declared repeatedly in recent weeks that the Strait of Hormuz was already fully open, but each of those promises has proven premature.
If the U.S. can keep the nuclear program in check and traffic resumes in the strait, then Trump is more likely to extend the current ceasefire indefinitely, the officials said. Trump also is expected to lift the U.S. military blockade on Iranian ports if Tehran fully reopens the strait, they added.
One major complication for the Trump administration is money. Iran is seeking billions of dollars in war reparations in addition to an agreement to unfreeze the country’s assets around the world. Trump has said the White House wouldn’t allow any taxpayer money to go to Iran, although a deal appears unlikely without the U.S. unfreezing some assets, possibly with conditions attached.
There also is a dispute about whether the U.S. should issue waivers to let Iran sell oil on the open market. The U.S. had agreed to the waivers last June as part of an interim peace agreement with Iran. That ceasefire fell apart after Iran attacked ships in the strait, and the U.S. reinstated sanctions on the Iranian oil trade.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:19 am to joshnorris14
Trump needs to take the gloves off.
Announce Tehran is going to be leveled in 24 hours and civilians should get the frick out.
Monitor where the government officials go.
Attack those locations instead.
Announce Tehran is going to be leveled in 24 hours and civilians should get the frick out.
Monitor where the government officials go.
Attack those locations instead.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:20 am to joshnorris14
You cuck
Kamala voter
Iran supporter
I covered the debate for the most ardent to save them some effort.
Kamala voter
Iran supporter
I covered the debate for the most ardent to save them some effort.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 10:38 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:23 am to joshnorris14
What I don’t understand is how the US can’t annihilate all of their Strait blocking operations? Is it just that they still have a bunch of mines in the water? Seems like we could create a safe lane and let all ships know of that lane for safe passage.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:25 am to joshnorris14
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/news-out-of-iran/124370637/
You should check this thread out and watch the video.
You should check this thread out and watch the video.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:25 am to udtiger
quote:
Announce Tehran is going to be leveled in 24 hours and civilians should get the frick out.
He already did that several times. He was bluffing. The Iranians called his bluff, and he backed off. You want him to try bluffing again?
Honestly, what do you want him to do? Destroy a city with 8 million people? Invade with the entire US military? Nuke em?
All you clowns who keep spouting off: "Trump needs to take the gloves off and get serious". Do you not understand that he has run through every available option in the last 6 months?
It didn't work. They won. We lost. Now it's time to go home. Trump knows it. Everyone in the world knows it.
Most important: Iran knows it. They took our best shot and they're stronger than they were before. Better get used to that idea.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:26 am to roadGator
quote:
I covered the debate for the most ardent so save them some effort.
That’s pretty spot on
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:26 am to udtiger
quote:
Announce Tehran is going to be leveled in 24 hours and civilians should get the frick out.
Will you be leading the charge when troops are sent in? Cause "leveling" hasn't worked, armchair Warhawk.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:28 am to ALTiger
quote:There are no mines in the water and Iran isn’t doing anything to physically close the straight. They are threatening to put mines out and that’s making insurance companies back out of insuring tankers going through the straight.
Is it just that they still have a bunch of mines in the water?
That’s why it’s laughable when people chirp that Iran is kicking our asses in all of this. They are literally doing nothing but talking.
Iran has done frick all other than making a threat. The insurance companies are the real ones “closing the straight”
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 10:29 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:30 am to udtiger
quote:
Trump needs to take the gloves off.
I suspect if he ever held such intentions as an option, we’d have already seen him do so.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:31 am to joshnorris14
It has been fascinating watching the goals of this war ever so gradually shift from destroying their nukes and getting "the dust", destroying their rocket launchers and capacity to manufacture rockets, cutting off their proxies, and regime change to......
Opening the Strait of Hormuz.
Now, the only goal we ever hear anything about is the Strait.
Opening the Strait of Hormuz.
Now, the only goal we ever hear anything about is the Strait.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:31 am to NawlinsTiger9
I’m good at recognizing patterns. 
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:32 am to udtiger
The “deal” was always fake. You have Aragachi saying XXX followed by Fars claiming all these fabricated “terms” but they can’t approve the terms without the “Supreme Leader” who is dead of course.
But the reality is there wasn’t anything to begin with.
But the reality is there wasn’t anything to begin with.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:34 am to No Colors
I’m not sure Trump or his supporters know how to admit defeat.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:37 am to No Colors
quote:
He already did that several times. He was bluffing. The Iranians called his bluff, and he backed off. You want him to try bluffing again?
No.
I want him to follow through.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:39 am to joshnorris14
quote:
WSJ: Trump thought opening Hormuz Straight was imminent, Iran had other plans
Only Trump and his base that leans on every word he said thought this.
Anyone with a fricking brain or ounce of objectivity knew it was all bullshite and it wasn't happening last Wed/Thurs as he claimed.
Trump is a snake oil salesman regarding Iran at this point. He needs to STFU
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:40 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:
I’m not sure Trump or his supporters know how to admit defeat.
When are you all going to move to Iran?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:44 am to DeBoar
quote:
When are you all going to move to Iran?
After Trump, the neocons, and liberals get done fricking it up I recon.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:45 am to Aubie Spr96
Well you sure do enjoy trying to claim victory for your Muslim friends
Posted on 8/9/26 at 10:47 am to No Colors
I agree. Listen to Caine and GTFO there. Claim a win and go home.


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