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re: WSJ: Trump said Stephen Miller ICE deportation's too 'far', Melania, Texas, FL complained

Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:27 am to
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
8055 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:27 am to
WSJ hit piece. They’re just trying to cause further division.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10617 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:40 am to
quote:

Anyone who doesn't believe that untrained, masked "law enforcement" killing 2 American citizens on video didn't have a huge impact is completely delusional. Going after abuela was stupid to, but not as impactful to non Hispanics as Pretti and Goode were.


They didn’t do anything wrong. But they still lost the narrative, and our side doesn’t understand narrative well. It’s just not in our DNA… where the left is all narrative with no substance

With that said. The guys doing the arrests should not have had to interact with protesters. There should have at minimum been a separate force specialize in crowd control and making a perimeter

I’m not in LE, but this seems like 101 to me


Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23580 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:41 am to
She knows people deported lol total bullshite
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8729 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:53 am to
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Ice isn’t what lost the race, Iran and breaking campaign promises plus the establishment refusing to execute the agenda is what caused Tuesday.


I agree to a point

1. Our congress refusing to help Trump
2. Really bad republican candidates
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
14403 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:02 am to
Stephen Miller is too angry and psychotic to be helpful to Trump.

Border Security helped Trump. Gestapo tactics didn’t.

Texas Hispanics flipped because ICE wasn’t just arresting the bad guys and criminals.
Posted by Tigersforthee
Member since Dec 2025
1246 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:05 am to
The muh gas bros dont care if Dems murder people for having the wrong opinions. Do you really think they care about a bunch of criminal illegals getting deported? They want their cheap gas and everyone else can #### off.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
8055 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:12 am to
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Gestapo tactics didn’t.


That’s just optics. If people didn’t doxx our law enforcement and people didn’t invade our country none of the media clips would look bad. Most of these people they got are not nice people and for the most part were treated pretty good. It also wouldn’t be escalated if liberals didn’t follow them around and interfere with operations. That’s where most of the bad optics come from because they have to deal with angry Karen’s instead of doing their job.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
2303 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:13 am to
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another lie


Here are the Facts...

According to Trump, He and Epstein first met in the late 80s

1990 - Epstein purchased his Palm Beach house and joined Mar-a-Lago

1992 - The NBC footage of Trump and Epstein laughing while watching the cheerleaders dance. Trump telling Epstein - “Look at her, back there. … She’s hot.” - Trump whispers something to him that makes him belly laugh - They are clearly friends.



1992-1997 - Trump used Lolita Express to go back and forth from NY to Palm Beach. Trump lied about this.

1993 - Epstein guest at Trumps wedding

1999 - Attended Victoria Secret show together

2002 - Trump is quoted in NY Magazine Article saying Epstein is "Terrific Guy" and likes young women.

2003 - Trump in birthday book - sketch of woman's body with...

"Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret." & "We have certain things in common"

Mar 2005 - Local investigation officially opens

Oct 2005 - Police search Epstein's home

July 2006 - Charges filed - Epstein turns himself in for arrest

Oct 2006 - Trump calls Police Chief Michael Reiter to tell him they weren't friends and everyone knew about Epstein's behavior.

Oct 2007 - Mar-a-Lago account was closed. This is supported by membership records and financials showing payments up until this date and termination of membership. True - Trump did kick him out, but records show officially it occurred after his arrest

2008 - Epstein pleads guilty and serves 18 months.

2017 - Trump President
July 6, 2019 - Epstein arrested
July 9, 2019 - Trump claims he hadn't spoken to Epstein in 15 years
Aug 10, 2019 - Epstein dead in his cell








This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 9:49 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29865 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:18 am to
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If anything they didn’t deport enough people.


How'd you like those election returns Tuesday?

Millions of Americans wanted to see violent criminal and drug dealing illegals deported, but didn't want gardeners and roofers and housekeepers who had lived here peacefully for 15 years rounded up first. You can whine like a bitch all you want, but at the end of the day, most Americans don't agree with you. Get the frick over it.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
34935 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:26 am to
Yeah I am certainly willing to lose over that. Send them all back. But that wasn’t what caused this. It was the war and affordability. No one cares if Pedro is shipped back home if they can afford a nice vacation and pay their bills.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
14403 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:27 am to
Let’s think beyond tv optics. The media clips don’t look bad in Texas. There aren’t stories of Karens filming everything in the Rio Grande Valley.

But there is fear and anger and halted work crews still exist, because they can’t find a decent framer now.

The facts are that hard working people with over a decade of experience living in the US got rounded up to “drive up numbers”.

That was unnecessary and cruel, and at the end of the day….that backfired.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
18479 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:31 am to
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The left can’t write heart string articles about a millionaire being arrested for immigration violations


100%

The ICE raids, much like the wall, were foolish endeavors. Making the country inhospitable for illegal immigrants is how you stop the crisis. If they cannot find work, a place to live, or a school for their children, then they have no point in coming here in the first place.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26927 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:37 am to
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And they haven’t even been effective in eradicating the illegals from the country. There’s still a whole lot of them


ICE deportations needed to be accompanied by the feds throwing the book at the employers. When employers start getting hit with criminal charges and steep financial penalties and/or jail time for knowingly employing illegals, those jobs would dry up real quick and the illegals would self-deport when they had no work.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s hollow dome
Member since Feb 2009
161425 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:38 am to
These crazy leftists doing psychotic things like trying to doxx, threatening to doxx and ultimately doxxing people doing their jobs is part of the problem. They made situations way worse than they needed to be and even paid for their crazy with their lives.

Crazy people make life so much harder for fine upstanding citizens and in this case ICE agents performing their duties.

We have a crazy person problem.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4807 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:43 am to
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That's media framing. The ICE deportation not only exactly what's needed it is needed more and faster.


Videos of ICE agents running people over in SUVs aren't media framing.

Sure, we could use something like ICE; sure, we could use something like Dodge, but the execution — just like many things with Trump — is often poor and doesn't reflect the output of the greatest country in the world.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67954 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:49 am to
Not nearly far enough, actually.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
62612 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:52 am to
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ICE deportations needed to be accompanied by the feds throwing the book at the employers. When employers start getting hit with criminal charges and steep financial penalties and/or jail time for knowingly employing illegals, those jobs would dry up real quick and the illegals would self-deport when they had no work.
idea

Amnesty for illegals who provide enough evidence to get convictions of these employers
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
126918 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:56 am to
I think the people that were trying to meme the deportations by adding cops music to body cam videos and making stupid video games were intentionally inflaming Hispanics to get what happened on Tuesday.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
20784 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:57 am to
Thanks for the fake news, Relicbitch.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
112324 posts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:58 am to
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WaltWhite504


Can't a Democrat controlled congress release every single bit of the underacted "Epstein files" on day one?

You expecting they will?
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