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WSJ: Trump said Stephen Miller ICE deportation's too 'far', Melania, Texas, FL complained
Posted on 11/5/26 at 6:58 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 6:58 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:01 am to RelicBatches86
Sauces! Trust me bro!
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:01 am to RelicBatches86
more lies from RelicSnatch
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:01 am to RelicBatches86
Now the finger pointing starts
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:03 am to RelicBatches86
He is wrong here, the program has to happen and is more productive than the dumb war in Iran.
Ice isn’t what lost the race, Iran and breaking campaign promises plus the establishment refusing to execute the agenda is what caused Tuesday.
ICE could be ran better, and I’ll admit it’s an uphill pr battle since the left controls the msm, but there were better ways to disarm the left on it. I’d also say going after businesses that hired illegals would take a lot of the air out of the Dems, it nips the problem and instead of focusing on some guy doing construction that the left can rally around it focuses on those benefiting from law breaking and the left isn’t defending a ceo being put in cuffs. So better press secretary, better visible leadership of ice, smarter strategy and it’s a winner. The left can’t write heart string articles about a millionaire being arrested for immigration violations
Ice isn’t what lost the race, Iran and breaking campaign promises plus the establishment refusing to execute the agenda is what caused Tuesday.
ICE could be ran better, and I’ll admit it’s an uphill pr battle since the left controls the msm, but there were better ways to disarm the left on it. I’d also say going after businesses that hired illegals would take a lot of the air out of the Dems, it nips the problem and instead of focusing on some guy doing construction that the left can rally around it focuses on those benefiting from law breaking and the left isn’t defending a ceo being put in cuffs. So better press secretary, better visible leadership of ice, smarter strategy and it’s a winner. The left can’t write heart string articles about a millionaire being arrested for immigration violations
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:05 am to RelicBatches86
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RelicBatches86
This is great. All you dumbasses can do is push leftist shite.
That is a "winner"
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:06 am to RelicBatches86
Trump has stated that some of the ICE raids went too far.
They hired people with no experience in law enforcement, gave them free will to have people detained and deported. Those are 2 huge actions that require experienced people.
A lot of it was window dressing too. They wanted to show force and send the message that they were serious. They did. But they overstepped.
And they haven’t even been effective in eradicating the illegals from the country. There’s still a whole lot of them
They hired people with no experience in law enforcement, gave them free will to have people detained and deported. Those are 2 huge actions that require experienced people.
A lot of it was window dressing too. They wanted to show force and send the message that they were serious. They did. But they overstepped.
And they haven’t even been effective in eradicating the illegals from the country. There’s still a whole lot of them
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:06 am to RelicBatches86
I don’t believe random Twitter posts. And I don’t subscribe to the Wall Street Journal so I can’t read it to verify.
But here are a few other sources that I neither endorse nor oppose.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/trump-said-stephen-miller-went-121809093.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/melanias-role-in-trumps-secret-swipe-at-stephen-miller-revealed
But here are a few other sources that I neither endorse nor oppose.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/trump-said-stephen-miller-went-121809093.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/melanias-role-in-trumps-secret-swipe-at-stephen-miller-revealed
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:08 am to RelicBatches86
That's media framing. The ICE deportation not only exactly what's needed it is needed more and faster.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:09 am to RelicBatches86
This absolutely contributed to the rout and you can dismiss it… but that doesn’t change reality.
In Texas, the valley and Hispanics as a whole saw a seismic shift left, completely reversing appreciable gains by Trump in 2024. A massive opportunity completed squandered in 2 short years.
You want to know why?
Guardian article link
In Texas, the valley and Hispanics as a whole saw a seismic shift left, completely reversing appreciable gains by Trump in 2024. A massive opportunity completed squandered in 2 short years.
You want to know why?
Guardian article link
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 7:10 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:12 am to RelicBatches86
If anything they didn’t deport enough people.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:12 am to RelicBatches86
This is like how he started telling people he didn't like Epstein once the investigation began.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:12 am to TejasHorn
I’m willing to lose over deportations. Not going to war in Iran.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:14 am to RelicBatches86
The problem with the ICE raids was the typical problem with our side
We are utterly retarded at understanding optics. I realize we are fighting uphill with the media, but we don’t think about anything with a level of tact and prudence.
We should have placed heavy emphasis on states who were cooperative. This could have avoided. We should have focused on employers, and applying more pressure on soft self deportation efforts. Cutting off handouts, going after NGOs, employers, etc
The absolute worst of the worst criminals and sex offenders… we should have found ways to apprehend them without just a couple random ICE guys in masks wrestling them in the street. We needed specially trained former SpecOp units snatching these guys up in the most discreet ways as possible
The result could have been better. Instead we chose to send undermanned, and under trained random guys with masks into mobs to wrestle around with some fat Mexican chick or something like that
I know we are the side of facts and logics. But elections are not one on facts and logics. You have to understand the marketing and optics side of this. And we just have to always step on our dick and never learn these lessons.
I go back to George Floyd. I don’t think Chauvin did anything wrong. But how could he not see that the optics of him sitting there on top of him with the camera in his face would generate a firestorm. Get your other guys, and drag the crackhead into the back of the cruiser and get him the hell out of there. He may have technically been doing the right thing… but he was a dumbass for not understanding what would happen when that video got posted
We are utterly retarded at understanding optics. I realize we are fighting uphill with the media, but we don’t think about anything with a level of tact and prudence.
We should have placed heavy emphasis on states who were cooperative. This could have avoided. We should have focused on employers, and applying more pressure on soft self deportation efforts. Cutting off handouts, going after NGOs, employers, etc
The absolute worst of the worst criminals and sex offenders… we should have found ways to apprehend them without just a couple random ICE guys in masks wrestling them in the street. We needed specially trained former SpecOp units snatching these guys up in the most discreet ways as possible
The result could have been better. Instead we chose to send undermanned, and under trained random guys with masks into mobs to wrestle around with some fat Mexican chick or something like that
I know we are the side of facts and logics. But elections are not one on facts and logics. You have to understand the marketing and optics side of this. And we just have to always step on our dick and never learn these lessons.
I go back to George Floyd. I don’t think Chauvin did anything wrong. But how could he not see that the optics of him sitting there on top of him with the camera in his face would generate a firestorm. Get your other guys, and drag the crackhead into the back of the cruiser and get him the hell out of there. He may have technically been doing the right thing… but he was a dumbass for not understanding what would happen when that video got posted
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:18 am to RelicBatches86
“The buck stops over there. It wasn’t me”
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:19 am to Big4SALTbro
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Ice isn’t what lost the race
It is one of several primary reasons.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:21 am to burger bearcat
Gotta agree it was the wrong focus, let Portland and Minnesota be shite holes, make hay in states that matter and also if you go after employers you take the lefts heart string story away, we know the left isn’t shedding a tear for CEOs. The game should have been start with the ones that are leftist and raid them and arrest them, and to be fair throw in some that vote right but are establishment types. The media would have zero gas if they did that.
We just don’t like winning unfortunately
We just don’t like winning unfortunately
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:25 am to RelicBatches86
Anyone who doesn't believe that untrained, masked "law enforcement" killing 2 American citizens on video didn't have a huge impact is completely delusional.
Going after abuela was stupid to, but not as impactful to non Hispanics as Pretti and Goode were.
Going after abuela was stupid to, but not as impactful to non Hispanics as Pretti and Goode were.

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