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re: Woke doctors blast 'corrupted' medical schools for rejecting students on MCAT and GPA scor
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:23 am to ShinerHorns
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:23 am to ShinerHorns
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You can’t trust your doctors for anything anymore unfortunately.
We're going to go from "men of medicine" to "medicine men".
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:26 am to teke184
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Rejecting good applicants because someone wants an under-qualified applicant to get a chance has a high likelihood of being a waste because the under qualified applicant can’t hack it and either gets passed along as a shitty doctor or fails out.
They will get passed along. It’s why they started this whole charade by eliminating step I scores. Without a standardized test that the schools have no control over, they couldn’t force bad students through the system as easily. They’ll start eliminating grades. Pretty soon competitive medical and surgical residencies are going to have very little objective data to go on when deciding who to rank.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:27 am to djmed
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"In several decades…[we] have practiced medicine, no patient has ever asked us our GPA or MCAT score.
Others have addressed this but doctors were frequently looked down on if their M.D was from a low prestige school because the standards were lower while those who went to the high prestige schools were more in demand. If given the choice no one would choose a doctor from Liberty University over someone from John Hopkins.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:29 am to YipSkiddlyDooo
“For duty and humanity!”
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:30 am to djmed
My MD grandmother always said, “Nothing will kill you faster than a bad doctor.”
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:33 am to Sidicous
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The whole MCAT and ACT/PSAT system doesn't work well anyway.
I took the ACT after being out all night partying and dropping 2 hits of strawberry mescaline. Scored 32. Took the MCAT literally 20 years later to enter clinicals for a 2nd degree and without even knowing anything about the content or format until 15 minutes before the test scored the 3rd highest in the nation that year.
None of this happened.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:35 am to djmed
Is there a pdf of this article somewhere? Links only go to Fox.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:45 am to CoachDon
A young woman working with my NP wife for the summer finished Pre-Med degree and applied LSU Shreveport.She said there was 7800 applicants for 128 slots.
She said the numbers for UNO are worse.
She hasn’t heard if she’s being accepted,her fall back plan is to apply for PA school somewhere.
We have a grandson majoring in Medical Physics with his ultimate goal of becoming a Radiation Oncologist.I would think his chances for med school are slim ,him being a white male.
Thing I found interesting in my ICU career is ,despite med school being so competitive,I saw some seriously stupid Drs,esp.GP’s,FP,and Internal Medicine.
Also dealt with a lot of smart Drs,some were brilliant,but they were in the specialties for the most part.
She said the numbers for UNO are worse.
She hasn’t heard if she’s being accepted,her fall back plan is to apply for PA school somewhere.
We have a grandson majoring in Medical Physics with his ultimate goal of becoming a Radiation Oncologist.I would think his chances for med school are slim ,him being a white male.
Thing I found interesting in my ICU career is ,despite med school being so competitive,I saw some seriously stupid Drs,esp.GP’s,FP,and Internal Medicine.
Also dealt with a lot of smart Drs,some were brilliant,but they were in the specialties for the most part.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:04 am to Old Money
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My MD grandmother always said, “Nothing will kill you faster than a bad doctor.”
That reminds me of a passage from a book called Cutting for stone.
To paraphrase. "A rich man hides his mistakes with money. A surgeon hides his with dirt".
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:09 am to Adam Banks
quote:20 years after completion of 1st BS degree went for a 2nd BS. Part of the Clinical Selection Process was Score on the MCAT and I was highest score of the clinical applicants, 3rd highest in the nation (according to professors (plural)) for that year.
What?
This makes no sense
For those who doubt, that's on you. I don't have any reason to lie on the interwebs. It's not like I'll ever meet any of you or that any of you will influence my life with other than brands/items as a US based consumer customer.
I have lived an incredible and generally wonderful life. Some of you need to get out more, travel, meet new people, try new things. You'll be amazed at things that just seem to randomly happen, especially if you are nice, respectful, and sociable. Also helps to be fearless and bold.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:17 am to LSUA 75
Specialists tend to make a frick ton more money than a GP or most other normal doctors, so people head into that field.
I believe that most of the people I went to school with who actually became doctors trended into the radiologist fields, though at least one became a psych because she loved it when she did her rotations.
I believe that most of the people I went to school with who actually became doctors trended into the radiologist fields, though at least one became a psych because she loved it when she did her rotations.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:19 am to teke184
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Rejecting good applicants because someone wants an under-qualified applicant to get a chance has a high likelihood of being a waste because the under qualified applicant can’t hack it and either gets passed along as a shitty doctor or fails out.
It will eventually reflect poorly on that school if they start graduating underperformers.
A few malpractice lawsuits and no one will hire from them.
But hey. They can say they are a top DEI school.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:32 am to BobBoucher
I’m taking a guess that the hospitals will try and sweep the malpractice under the rug, as they haven’t been opposed to hiding shite if they know they fricked up bad.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:41 am to djmed
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Doctors said medical schools should begin assessing applicants "holistically" and pull back significant weight on their grade point average and MCAT scores in order to create more diversity in the medical profession
translation: We dont want to have to work with blacks. Lower our standards and let the new guys do it
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:42 am to djmed
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Doctors said medical schools should begin assessing applicants "holistically"
Yeah, there are other important qualities for a doctor beyond academic ability. Like, is he good at basketball?
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:48 am to Sidicous
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20 years after completion of 1st BS degree went for a 2nd BS. Part of the Clinical Selection Process was Score on the MCAT
I’ve never heard of a degree that requires the mcat for entrance other than medical school
Would be interested to know what degree and what field.
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was highest score of the clinical applicants, 3rd highest in the nation (according to professors (plural)) for that year.
So among students not looking to enter medical school taking the MCAT (a very very limited number of people) you scored the 3rd highest in the nation?
Cool.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:49 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:57 am to djmed
quote:I will now.
"In several decades…[we] have practiced medicine, no patient has ever asked us our GPA or MCAT score
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:57 am to Sidicous
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I took the ACT after being out all night partying and dropping 2 hits of strawberry mescaline. Scored 32. Took the MCAT literally 20 years later to enter clinicals for a 2nd degree and without even knowing anything about the content or format until 15 minutes before the test scored the 3rd highest in the nation that year.
*cough* bullshite! *cough*
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:04 am to Adam Banks
quote:Nope, among ALL takers of the MCAT (conceivably some re takers/takers who were not enrolled at the time).
So among students not looking to enter medical school taking the MCAT (a very very limited number of people) you scored the 3rd highest in the nation?
Some of the anxillary fields, potentially by school/division/etc., may require the test as a pre-qualification to help further distinguish between students.
Since I retired as a Radiology Dept. Manager I think you can probably now figure out the field of study with that bit of added info.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:09 am to Sidicous
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you scored the 3rd highest in the nation?
quote:I don't believe it.
Some of the anxillary fields
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