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re: Woke doctors blast 'corrupted' medical schools for rejecting students on MCAT and GPA scor

Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:36 pm to
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You can get that now, go to a state that has independent NP or CRNA practice. Yes the DEI crap is bad, but mid levels practicing independently of docs, as docs, when they didn’t go to med school is incredibly dangerous.
Maybe, but mid-levels are more highly scrutinized, so they are more likely to avoid mistakes in general. I've reported MD's for outright fraud and the medical board was like "meh." One specialist had a side gig of running a "pain management" center (basically selling opioid prescriptions o addicts). His punishment? The board told him to stop and stick with his specialization. That's the equivalent of the punishment for robbing banks being that you have to give the money back.
Posted by Gastrogastro99
Member since Jan 2023
978 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:38 pm to
Mid levels are not more scrutinized. Most are hired by big box shops, which make them incredibly hard to sue. And yes there are some unethical doctors out there, just like there’s sadly unethical people in every profession. Point is, you have people who aren’t qualified to be docs acting as docs, and it’s difficult to hold them accountable, and often medical mistakes don’t have consequences until years later.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Mid levels are not more scrutinized. Most are hired by big box shops, which make them incredibly hard to sue. And yes there are some unethical doctors out there, just like there’s sadly unethical people in every profession. Point is, you have people who aren’t qualified to be docs acting as docs, and it’s difficult to hold them accountable, and often medical mistakes don’t have consequences until years later.
I guess I'm just thinking more in terms of the tidal wave of woke, quota-coddled dipshits that will be the doctors for the next 30+ years. And I'm against big-box hires, also against PE-owned hospitals and clinics, which are effectively the same thing - idiots with MBA's and deep pockets controlling health care.
Posted by Gastrogastro99
Member since Jan 2023
978 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:51 pm to
Sadly it’s gonna get worse
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1703 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:55 pm to
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"In several decades…[we] have practiced medicine, no patient has ever asked us our GPA or MCAT score. Looking solely at these metrics is a troubling and regressive way to assess the excellence – let alone the potential – of those seeking to join the profession," the authors said in Journal of the American Medical Association on April 25.


My son's significant other did his surgical residency at the hospital that just closed in Atlanta due to not having enough paying customers. When he was in the ER, he helped people with gunshot and knife wounds that he knew would rather kill him that look at him.

But...in the long run, they were happy that this young doctor was at the top of his class and didn't ask for a "person of color" to perform his/her surgery.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:55 pm to
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how can you possibly ever know an affirmative action doctor is knowledgeable?




Age and years in practice, combined with reviews.

The 55-year-old African doctor is probably legitimate.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 1:58 pm to
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“Nothing will kill you faster than a bad doctor.”


She's right. A very close relative of mine is currently dead because her doctor is an idiot.

Pisses me off.
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:23 pm to
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You’d be surprised, compared to the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s getting into med school is the academic Olympics. Many of the middle aged attendings wouldn’t even receive a med school interview had they applied now. If you don’t fall in the DEI category you need to be elite to get into an MD school, you can however go to a DO school




Yeah, it's clear to me that most people here have never attended medical school or know much about medical school admissions.

Acceptance rates in the 1980s were incredibly high (>50% if I can recall). As long as you could read and write and get through college, you'd get into medical school in the 1980s.

Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
918 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:25 pm to
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I took the ACT after being out all night partying and dropping 2 hits of strawberry mescaline. Scored 32. Took the MCAT literally 20 years later to enter clinicals for a 2nd degree and without even knowing anything about the content or format until 15 minutes before the test scored the 3rd highest in the nation that year.


I got a 35 on the ACT.

It's not exactly a hard exam.

As long as you can spot patterns within certain sections, you're gonna do very well.

My worst section was math ironically which was my strongest subject.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35932 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Doctors said medical schools should begin assessing applicants "holistically" and pull back significant weight on their grade point average and MCAT scores in order to create more diversity in the medical profession, according to an article published in a medical journal.


They haven’t asked your victimhood status either.

And the reason people don’t ask is because they assume they are good because they’ve always needed to be!

How can supposedly smart people be so obtuse.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:30 pm to
School makes lots of money even when people fail out. Frankly they probably make more money failing people out than putting through good candidates.
Posted by Gastrogastro99
Member since Jan 2023
978 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:58 pm to
Schools need students to graduate and secure residency spots, if not then they get put on probation. The money maker for med schools isn’t tuition, although med school tuition now is outrageous at 40-50k, it’s grants
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22286 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 4:08 pm to

Doctors speak out against the MCAT at the Journal of the American Medical Association YouTube/screenshot | Adobe Stock|YouTube/screenshot | Adobe Stock
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65864 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:45 pm to
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Age and years in practice, combined with reviews.

The 55-year-old African doctor is probably legitimate.


Only people who survive can leave reviews.
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