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re: Why won't Iran just agree to the terms of surrender?

Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:31 am to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:35 am to
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Also, they want to bring about the end times. Chaos, wars, disease, famine, are required for the "Mahdi" to appear.


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Mahdi is a messianic figure in Islamic eschatology expected to appear near the end of time to eliminate injustice and tyranny, restoring peace and righteousness


They also believe that Jesus will come again at the same time and team up with the Mahdi, like Batman and Superman, to defeat the anti-Christ.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:38 am to
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There is speculation that the source might be the US.


???

Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:44 am to
She is the person who approved the Uranium One deal with Russia.
Posted by riccoar
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:51 am to
Because Iran has Intifada on the brain. They are sold out to total annihilation of all Jews.

They, like the never were a nation Palestinian vermin, will fail to ever do so.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:57 am to
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The Americans keep saying they will never hand over their uranium. That’s a hell of a hill to die on. The rest of the country will be in rubbles but their uranium stockpile will be protected in the mountains. It would be kind of hard to spin those centrifuges without electricity


Can you imagine a world where anyone in this country would forcibly comply with another country that was dictating domestic issues? All Iran has to do to win this war is refuse to negotiate.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:12 am to
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They also believe that Jesus will come again at the same time and team up with the Mahdi, like Batman and Superman, to defeat the anti-Christ.


I believe this Mahdi will be the anti Christ. Islam says:

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Miraculous support: Narrations (especially Shia) describe him performing or being aided in wonders, such as:Pointing to a bird in flight, which descends to his hand and speaks.
Planting a dry stick in barren ground, causing it to instantly grow green with leaves.
Possessing relics like the Staff of Moses or the Ring of Solomon for divine aid.
Other phenomena like abundant provision, rapid conquests aided by supernatural means, or control over nature.



Sure sounds like Mahdi is trying to mimic Jesus. Also, Paul warned us about the anti Christ:

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2 Thessalonians 2:9 (referring to the "lawless one"/Antichrist):
"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders..." (or in some translations: "with all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders").



Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:14 am to
They await their date with the promised 72 virgins...
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:30 am to
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I just can't understand why they're so willing to die on that hill.


Because the USA is their Satanic Enemy and they would rather be immolated in the fire of a thousand suns rather than surrender to Globo Homo Great Satan USA. They will be in Heaven for doing this.

If they cling to life and surrender, they will go to Hell for Eternity.

They will tell you, Allah wills it.

We should have understood from the start that this IRGC Regime will never surrender. They will burn themselves to death first - AND let me add, they will take every fellow Iranian with them.

This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 9:32 am
Posted by JLivermore
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:52 am to
Let’s drive a wedge and foment distrust between the IRGC leaders who want to live vs those who are willing to die.

Keep killing the fanatics, keep the snitches who desire power and western wealth more than their faith alive.

Let’s use their own to make a mockery out of their religion while we’re at it.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 9:53 am
Posted by dickkellog
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:57 am to
ever know any iranians they are poor but proud!
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:01 am to
They need chaos to bring on the Mahdi. Read anything to do with Muslim eschatology and you'll get the idea.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 10:03 am
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:03 am to
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Why won't Iran just agree to the terms of surrender?


It's not in their DNA.

Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:15 am to
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Let’s drive a wedge and foment distrust between the IRGC leaders who want to live vs those who are willing to die.


We have well-trained and very expert US military assets that were created to execute exactly that kind of military mission. These folks reside on Fort Bragg at the United States Army Special Operations Command (Airborne).

I have no idea whether we are currently using any of them in that role. My guess is that we are not, and that the plan is just to continue this "talking" with Iran until Trump is out of power, then the USA will make peace with the IRGC.

The IRGC will then be absolutely committed to hitting the USA's cities and civilians with nukes and dirty bombs.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 10:16 am
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:17 am to
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Why won't Iran just agree to the terms of surrender?



The mistake you make here is thinking Iranians, or really ANY middle eastern, Muslim country thinks. They can't agree to terms because they don't understand it. They're too ignorant as a people. Without generalizing or trying to be insulting, these people are not civilized enough to understand how the world works. They don't understand ceasefires because it is a concept they aren't capable of grasping. They don't understand why war would end. They don't understand peace. They don't understand negotiating. They live in and worship a culture of death. In their mind, "ceasefire" is a term the West uses for them to try to gain some upper hand. They think it's followed by more war, which gains them a martyr's death, which is their entire goal. It's the goal in their minds for their wives, for their children, their grandchildren, etc.

You can't negotiate with cavemen. That's who you're trying to argue with. A cave man. We're like "We will stop all the bombing if you agree to not have a nuclear weapon." Their response, in their minds is "We have to kill you. We hear you want us to stop developing nukes but we must kill you. We have to kill everyone. We have to kill the Jews, and we have to kill you now - and forevermore."

Us: "You have to open the Strait of Hormuz"
Them: "You have to die. You have to die now."
Us: "You will need to stop enriching Uranium"
Them: "Death to all infidels. You must die."

That's what you're dealing with. They're cave dwelling, simple cave people. There's no negotiating because they can't understand what that is.
Posted by winkchance
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:17 am to
The same reason Japan would not - religious zealotry to the highest degree
Posted by biscuitsngravy
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:24 am to
Vance tried to explain this apparently. They have a messianic tradition, in leadership, that believes this action precedes the return of Mahdi.

"The Mahdi (Arabic for "the Guided One") is a messianic figure in Islamic eschatology prophesied to appear near the end of time to rid the world of evil and injustice and establish a global era of peace and justice."
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 10:27 am
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:24 am to
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the administration or other party responsible is fighting like hell to keep that info buried.


The administration is fighting like hell to get its hands on it so they can PROVE that Obama and Hillary provided Iranian zealots with nuclear material
Posted by RelicBatches86
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:36 am to
How many fanatics are you going need to kill when their population is 90 million?

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Let’s drive a wedge and foment distrust between the IRGC leaders who want to live vs those who are willing to die.


That's worked out well in every country we tried this in before.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:45 am to
It's about retention of power. They could have instant peace by stepping aside and letting their people vote. Sure things are bad for them. But as Lucifer explained in Paradise Lost:
'I'd rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.'
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