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re: Why Haiti is poor video

Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6578 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:10 pm to
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So, Haiti is poor because it is filled with Haitians.


See, I didn't even have to bother. Everyone knows it already.

Same answer for basically all third world nations. *Blank* is poor because *Blankians* are in it.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13518 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:16 pm to
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Man, the natives of Hispaniola took it on the chin, demographics wise, huh? 10% of DR and less than 5% of Haiti's (by implication) DNA is indigenous.


Few people realize that far far more slaves were shipped to the Caribbean than the US. Heck the total to the US was less than 400K and Jamaica alone had over a million shipped there. At the same time disease destroyed the local population.

There remained remnants of Carib indians in the lower part of the Caribbean, St. Vincent, Dominica, and the mountains of Trinidad. My wife's grandmother is 100% Carib and you see it in my wife's high cheekbones and piercing beautiful eyes (if I say so myself). Course she also has that Carib temperament but thats a subject for another day.

The one exception to the Caribbean is Trinidad where they brought over vast numbers of East Indians as indentured servants, so the population is almost evenly split between them and blacks.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13518 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:20 pm to
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3. Massive incentives for immigration. Give foreign business people major incentives to move there and open businesses. Not only will this increase jobs, but it would likely import foreigners who may potentially stay, have children, etc., and increase the genetic diversity.


There is a VERY small group of individual families that control the wealth and bring in expats to run the various businesses for them, and all the ones I know "hole up" for two weeks working and then back to Miami to bathe for a week, rest for a week and go back and do it all over again.
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
2453 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:31 pm to
In Haiti, they tell Chicago Jokes.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7921 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:32 pm to
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3. Massive incentives for immigration. 

The only group interested in mass exporting an excess populace to a country like Haiti is one that's already doing it with great success to Africa:

Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
975 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 5:57 pm to
We have a higher IQ in America but our government is corrupt as well
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7398 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Low IQ means you will have a corrupt government, low skilled work force, and violence violence violence.


Haiti sounds like Louisiana.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9293 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:21 pm to
It’s like a giant Jackson Mississippi….except worse….somehow
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51811 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:30 pm to
It's mind boggling why blacks have such difficulty not just governing each other but getting along with each other.

Who kills the most blacks? Other blacks.

What countries with majority black populations are the worst? Those ran by other blacks.

Cities? Same answer.


To talk about it makes you racist because you have to talk about cold hard facts the left doesn't want to hear because it doesn't fit their narrative. I'm not smart enough to figure out the answer.

Is it education? Maybe but lack of education doesn't make you violent against your own people.

Is it money? We can't say that either because of the tens of billions that got sent there after the quake and gov't leaders stole it all.

Like I said, I'm not smart enough to figure out the solution.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10503 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:47 pm to
Any human that can speak two languages has enough intelligence to be successful at something

Haitians are largely bi lingual. They actually speak English and creole. One of the few places on the planet besides Louisiana.

Haiti has been hurt by decades of corruption.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49783 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? The smartest people I know IRL have zero or 1 kid. The dumbest have lots of kids.


It's a documentary.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26934 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:51 pm to
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Any human that can speak two languages has enough intelligence to be successful at something


Children and retards can speak multiple languages. That means nothing.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 6:54 pm to
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Any human that can speak two languages has enough intelligence to be successful at something


No it doesn’t. It means they learned to talk using more than one language. Children do it often worldwide.

They speak French along with Haitian Creole btw, not English.
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 6:56 pm
Posted by jimmyb1234
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
143 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:23 pm to
Charles Murray wrote a whole book on this very subject and made many of the same observations. He was pilloried by the ivory towered "acadummies" but since the publication of the Bell Curve, almost all of his observations have been vindicated.

But much of Haiti's problems have to do with the nature of the slave rebellion that led to the modern day formation. Interesting fact: The only other successful colonial uprising was the American Revolution. One is (or at least was) successful, the other an unmitigated disaster.
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26934 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:28 pm to
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But much of Haiti's problems have to do with the nature of the slave rebellion that led to the modern day formation.



Haiti is only about 30 years younger than the United States as a free country. Their revolution ended in 1804.

Nothing that happened that long ago is affecting them today.
Posted by jimmyb1234
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
143 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:30 pm to
I think you missed my point, or more likely I failed to convey it properly. When the slave revolt ended they rebuffed any outside European help, ruthlessly murdered the remaining French, and have ever since been unable to manage their affairs.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26934 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:33 pm to
My apologies.

But yea, that’s the point of the thread. They’ve been on their own and it shows.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12996 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:05 pm to
Haiti has been white privilege and systemic racism free for over two centuries. Shouldn’t they be a utopia of Kangz by now?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18318 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:46 pm to
Every Haitian I've met are hardworking, nice, take academics serious, etc. and they would hardly what I would call "biracial."

The best thing Haiti could do is not have a gov't.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4660 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 8:53 pm to
yes the IQs would be lower compared to other nations... but I don't think that entirely explains haiti's plight. the thing with IQ is that it should be normally distributed amongst a population. basically this means that not everyone is dumb there...there would be dumb people, those with average intelligence, and some smart people. every population has it, even haiti. in addition to lack of literacy/education, corruption, incompetent leadership, natural disasters, and poor self image all seem to be contributing factors.
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