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Why do old conservatives get mad when you tell them that SSI is welfare
Posted on 11/2/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 2:58 pm
It's actually the biggest form of welfare. They will argue that the paid into it like they had a choice. Regardless its welfare
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 2:59 pm to winston318
Because they love big gov just like the Dems
Posted on 11/2/17 at 2:59 pm to winston318
one of my favorite "Facebook arguments"
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:00 pm to winston318
Just for clarification - "SSI" is an acronym for "Supplemental Security Income" (which is, actually, welfare because it is needs based - same rules as Medicaid AND not coupled to payroll contributions to an insurance fund).
Social Security (Retirement - "regular" Social Security), I believe is what you mean gets all the old folks riled up.
/quibbling
Social Security (Retirement - "regular" Social Security), I believe is what you mean gets all the old folks riled up.
/quibbling
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:01 pm to winston318
quote:It isn't welfare and people do pay into it.
It's actually the biggest form of welfare. They will argue that the paid into it like they had a choice. Regardless its welfare
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:01 pm to winston318
How often do you talk to old people about SSI?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:01 pm to winston318
because it is theft, not welfare. You don't get as much out as you put in.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:02 pm to winston318
So your checking account is welfare?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:03 pm to winston318
You might be speaking with some of the older converts, for instance those who were democrats until the late 1960s and believers in FDR's programs.
The last huge sudden move to the left by the democratic party, prior to what we're seeing in the last few years, was the 1968 DNC. Resulted in a lot of defections for them.
The last huge sudden move to the left by the democratic party, prior to what we're seeing in the last few years, was the 1968 DNC. Resulted in a lot of defections for them.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:03 pm to winston318
If you pay into something and have no choice it is not welfare.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:03 pm to notsince98
That's right, and they take taxes out of that SS check too. Yay for them old folk.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:03 pm to m2pro
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How often do you talk to old people about SSI?
At least once a week, when I help out on the sales floor at our dealership.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:04 pm to winston318
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They will argue that the paid into it like they had a choice.
I've never heard anyone do this, in particular.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:04 pm to mmcgrath
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It isn't welfare
will people still receiving funding if we stopped taking out taxes for it?
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and people do pay into it.
what kind of property-ownership interest do you have in this "account" (or whatever word you want to use)?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:04 pm to winston318
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It's actually the biggest form of welfare. They will argue that the paid into it like they had a choice. Regardless its welfare
Eh, I'll never defend SSI, but to be fair, they paid into it their entire lives, what they were told to pay (some of them). It isn't their fault the calculations were god awful to make it sustainable. As far as they are concerned, it isn't welfare. They paid into it for a promised benefit.
It is, however, welfare for some.
It is just the perfect example of the ineptitude of government and needs to go away. However, a person who says something they paid into their whole life for a benefit when they retire is not crazy in saying that isn't welfare.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:05 pm to stelly1025
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If you pay into something and have no choice it is not welfare.
you have a choice to pay taxes that go to other welfare programs?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:05 pm to winston318
frick the youth.
So the dumb fricks not working, not putting any money in to SSI are afraid its going to collapse...
and the idea is the person who has been paying it for 40-50 years is the one who should get fricked?
WORLD-- take away all social media rights of anyone under 30.... or at least anyone who does not actually PAY taxes...
I think you would see 90% of this bullshite disappear immediately.
So the dumb fricks not working, not putting any money in to SSI are afraid its going to collapse...
and the idea is the person who has been paying it for 40-50 years is the one who should get fricked?
WORLD-- take away all social media rights of anyone under 30.... or at least anyone who does not actually PAY taxes...
I think you would see 90% of this bullshite disappear immediately.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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It isn't their fault the calculations were god awful to make it sustainable.
actually, it is
we live in a republic and we vote in the people who control and sustain these pograms
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:06 pm to winston318
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At least once a week, when I help out on the sales floor at our dealership.
Wait, you talk to them about SSI every single week? Damn, homie. I am not hating. I'm actually impressed it's that interesting to you.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
you dont think these same people would have much preferred to invest & manage that money themselves rather than seeing it leak out of every paycheck over the last 50+ years?
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