re: Why did Clinton lose Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016?

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Everyone knows that she didn’t go to WI once during her campaign. Trump won all three of them in 2016, he didn’t have the same success in 2020. What went wrong for Clinton in 2016?

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There are a LOT of things.

Primarily, there was a combination of her taking those states for granted while Trump pushed hard in them. The big point here was that Trump hammered hard on the point that she had been a massive proponent of NAFTA, which pulled thousands of manufacturing jobs out of the region, wile Trump campaigned on renegotiating it to bring manufacturing jobs back.

It was a stance she had no defense from, but the most important aspect of it is that she didn't even really try.

Another issue was that in 2016 Trump's style, energy and outsider status was new and that captured attention. It also sent the Dems scrambling for how to counter this tweeting, campaigning, poll-winning machine. Add to this that the media had given him a TON of attention in the party primaries due to thinking he would be the easiest candidate for Hillary to beat. It didn't matter how often they reported negatively on him or his campaign, the key was they gave him airtime and he made the most of it.

To bring 2020 into this, Trump spent almost the entirety of his term fighting the Russian Collusion Hoax. It wasn't just once a week, but damned near every day the news media ran with some new, salacious story which framed the collusion as an absolute fact (not just a claim). There are still those out there who believe it really happened and that's solely on the heads of the news media complex. That constant accusation of non-existent crimes wore on many voters.

Then we get to COVID. People stressed the frick out and the media rushed to blame Trump for any negatives. He was "racist" for even suggesting it came from China, for example. During this time when states locked down, we had the left pushing BLM and St George of Fentanyl bullshite as well as trying to frame the Kyle Rittenhouse shooting as evidence of he violence Trump supporters create.



Lost in the narrative though was that Rittenhouse was actually out trying to help protect businesses from being destroyed by BLM/Floyd protestors and then shot and/or killed 3 people in only self defense.

Those are only a few points on both aspects (the win and the "loss"), but they are major ones.

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Why did Clinton lose Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016

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Because the left was arrogant enough to think she was a shoe in and that Trump had no chance.

They didn’t think they needed to cheat


They will never make that mistake again.

TTP, she presumed the union voters

she never landed a plane in WI.

she bought the DNC debt after Obama's billion dollar campaign in 2012 barely got by.

she underestimated Obama's 2012 appeal and thought him on stage with her was a shoe in.

she wanted Trump for an easy win with no competition from the career politicians, (Cruz, Rubio) she feared more at the time.

Those states have icy conditions in the Fall. She had trouble falling down on dry pavement after a few dozen cocktails.

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I implore you to go watch John Pedestas speech the night of the election . They were caught off guard . They didn’t expect it .

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Exactly. Almost the whole government and half of the GOP in congress turned on him in an instant. Paul Ryan completely stonewalled him. Then they tried to impeach him twice.

They are shitting on themselves right now trying to build firewalls in all the institutions.

The election of 2016 was before the days of ballot harvesting, programming voting machines and mass mail in voting.

Everyone knew before they went to bed that Trump was president.

She spent all her time in Florida, and rarely campaigned up there. She may have thought they would be in the bag.

Biden, OTOH, did go there to campaign. As has Harris.

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Uh what. Megyn Kelly asked if why he referred to women as dogs

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Only Rosie O Donnell

They didn’t cheat enough.