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Everyone on the board dumps on Franklin but not sure why. Until the 3 losses in a row this year he seemed to have Penn state program built up


He’s basically a younger Brian Kelly. Wins a lot but loses when it matters. And just like BK, he’s a bit of an a-hole too.
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I'm seeing tweets like this all over twitter. I am guessing Gruden


As a fan of a team that has Arkansas as a permanent SEC opponent, I hope they hire Gruden.

That has failed experiment written all over it.
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It’s not a “gotcha”, LSU had been negotiating, Kelly is the one that is trying to play the “gotcha” card by saying he wasn’t terminated, and I don’t have a paper that says with cause so it can’t be for cause.


Is he wrong? If LSU didn’t notify him of cause, it’s a pretty big legal gamble to try and do it retroactively
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LSU doesn't want to pay this out over time. It wants to pay a lump sum now


So what? As long as BK accepts that it’s fine, but if he doesn’t then LSU should pay whatever is legally required.

Don’t give someone that kind of contract if you aren’t prepared to honor it.
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How someone is fired and what and how that happens is spelled out in the contract.


That’s exactly my point.

The contract describes how the termination process works.

But….

BK and Woodward had a meeting and at the conclusion of that meeting BK was relieved of his duties, lost access to the facility after removing his personal items (allegedly) and there was a press conference announcing that BK was immediately relieved of his duties (i.e. fired).


I am not an employment attorney but if that process violated the contract’s terms that spelled out how the termination process works, that seems to be an LSU problem and helps BK’s side in many ways.
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BK didn’t want any new staff for fear of his incompetence being exposed.


Well that certainly worked out the exact opposite way didn’t it?
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It's not how coaches are hired at public universities either. They are "hired", "announced", and begin work before the contract situation is finalized


This may be true, but how someone is fired/terminated is a lot different than how they start the job. Especially when this much money is involved.

If the school is trying to avoid the buyout both parties agreed upon in the contract, they damn well better have everything locked tight when they fire him.
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A judge may well find that they have. Or that through what they have said / done, LSU has actually breached the contract.


This is what I wonder about.

People yesterday were saying that BK wasn’t really fired because there was (allegedly) no formal written termination and that Woodward didn’t have authority to terminate him. And they were acting like that was some “gotcha” information that helped LSU.

If anything, it makes it seem like BK was terminated in a way that violated his contract and puts LSU in a very precarious legal position.

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Do we really want Saban?


He would do a good job here but he’s 74.

If anything he’s just going to be a bandaid and we will have to hire another coach in 3 years.
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run the risk of losing and it becoming a PR nightmare for LSU


Pretty sure that ship has already sailed.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger on 11/11/25 at 9:28 pm to
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Kelly is trying to bend LSU over a barrel and y’all are cheering him on


I’m not cheering anyone on here. But if you sign a contract, honor it.

End of discussion.

Maybe information will come out that shows LSU is not doing anything wrong, but based on what has transpired so far it sure as shite looks like they are trying to avoid their legal obligation.

And regardless of your personal feelings about BK, you shouldn’t think that is OK
I want to say he doesn’t get drafted at all but Anthony Richardson was a top 5 pick so who knows.

NFL GMs do goofy shite all the time.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger on 11/11/25 at 8:47 pm to
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If I’m LSU and i end up having to pay the buyout I make sure that it’s over the length of the contract and that no direct deposit allowed. He has to show up to the bursars office every month to get his check and that the check is voided if not deposited within 1 week of being written



Once legal judgements are made, however they go, it would be in LSUs best interest to pay whatever they are required to pay as quickly and as painlessly as possible.

No reason to an a-hole.

This ultimately goes beyond football and LSU and is a reflection of how the State of Louisiana does business. Fair or unfair, that’s the reality.

In theory this could hurt the entire state in more ways than just LSU football.

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger on 11/11/25 at 8:42 pm to
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LSU alleges that they didn’t officially terminate him


I guess this is where it gets murky from a legal sense.

They held a press conference and announce he was relieved of his duties immediate. I don’t know how any reasonable person could consider that anything less than termination.

But maybe there is legal technicality that LSU can exploit though it would be incredibly shitty to do so and would be a giant red flag for any potential coaching candidate (in any sport)

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger on 11/11/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Well I consider offering $25/30 when you have cause that could reduce it to zero generous but what do I know


There is no real evidence anywhere at this point that LSU had “cause”.

Guys like Pate get their LSU info from this website.

Nothing will convince me otherwise

re: BK is scum

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger on 11/11/25 at 7:14 pm to
Oh look another idiot arguing from a place of emotion.

Emotions have zero legal standing.

BK and LSU agreed to terms of a contract, so as much as I don’t like him, I don’t blame him for one second for trying to get every penny he’s legally entitled to.

State and university officials have made this mess, now they have to lay in it.
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LSU would be very naive to wait on Lane. You give him a cutoff date, because if they don't and he decides to stay, then LSU is left standing there with their dicks in their hands, recruiting class and transfer portal would be a mess with only retreads left to choose from


Based on how things have been handled so far, this is EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECT TO HAPPEN
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So if he wasn’t fired/terminated, why did he tell the players in a meeting and then leave with his things and leave town??


If he wasn’t fired/terminated why was there a formal announcement that he had been relieved of his duties effective immediately?

re: What is Kelly hiding?

Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger on 11/11/25 at 6:26 pm to
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LSU has not issued the notice


Is a formal announcement that he has been relieved of his coaching duties and an interim coach has been out in his place not considered “notice”

Seems like a pretty fricking public notice.

And maybe what you say true from a purely legal sense, but is that worth the PR nightmare that will come from it? You think any cos h worth his salt is going to come here knowing that’s how the school and state do business?