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re: Where do you guys see the U.S headed in the next 50-60 years?

Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Now then you get the women who get knocked up by some rando and gives the kid a name like Jackshon, after having another kid with a different guy, thats what is leading to Americas downfall


You haven't explained how that will bring about the downfall.

As the nuclear family has deteriorated the country has continued to improve by nearly all metrics. Tough to explain.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Now then you get the women who get knocked up by some rando and gives the kid a name like Jackshon, after having another kid with a different guy, thats what is leading to Americas downfall


You haven't explained how that will bring about the downfall.

As the nuclear family has deteriorated the country has continued to improve by nearly all metrics. Tough to explain.


Eh, not necessarily. More like it's bifurcated.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
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As the nuclear family has deteriorated the country has continued to improve by nearly all metrics. Tough to explain.

Not really. Just off the top of my head mental health and birth rates in the developed world are declining and in some instances quite severely.

Not saying these are definitely correlated but is is possible.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
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Eh, not necessarily. More like it's bifurcated


Exactly.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:10 pm to
Further down the shitter than we already are. Things won’t get better.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:14 pm to
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Not really. Just off the top of my head mental health and birth rates in the developed world are declining and in some instances quite severely.

Not saying these are definitely correlated but is is possible.


Declining birth rates aren't necessarily bad. Mental health declines, maybe, but I suspect can be attributed to an increase in the number of recognized mental illnesses..
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:17 pm to
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Not really. Just off the top of my head mental health and birth rates in the developed world are declining and in some instances quite severely.

Not saying these are definitely correlated but is is possible.


It's a mixed picture and the inputs aren't very clear at all.

Crime shot way up soon after the out-of-wedlock birth rate started going up, but has been slowly declining for a couple of decades (then shot up again the past few years).

High school graduation rates are up a bit over fifty years ago, but again, it's tough to compare as the quality of education seems to be either declining or stagnant (not to mention stat-juking).

Life expectancy is up, but how much is attributable to improved technology and how much is attributable to improved lifestyle is basically unknowable.

Smoking and alcoholism are down, but obesity is way up - overall health seems to be relatively similar.

Median income and wealth stats adjusted for inflation are really messy to compare, but I think it's patently obvious that those born into single parent households struggle compared to two parent households here.

It'd be really tough to compare the two groups: you'd have to compare the gap in quality of life between single parent households and two parent households in, say 1965, versus the gap in quality of life between the two today. To my knowledge, such a study has never been attempted, and it'd be pretty tough to do, but my instinct is both that the gap has widened and that the relative gains in quality of life for those in single parent households is basically nil (or negative) compared to the relative gains in two parent households.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:18 pm to
Pompeii
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:19 pm to
Into a dystopian artificial intelligence nightmare. 1984 meets The Terminator.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:21 pm to
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I'm 25 and I'm coming to accept that the American experiment as we know it will likely end during my lifetime.

To start, we are getting dumber, lazier, fatter, and more dependent on the government by the decade. The Democrats have started to openly embrace socialism and socialist candidates. They've dominated the culture war even though Republicans have held the White House through most of the 70s, all of the 80s, most of 2000s, etc.

I just don't see where people magically wake up and start valuing the things that made this country what it is - private property rights, individual liberty, self reliance, etc.

Single motherhood is celebrated (so brave!)
Immigration just means you have to cross the border
Fiscal responsibility is ignored by both sides




I don't refute anything you're saying, as I actually agree with it all.

However, I do believe that God won't allow our country to go fully under. We are the number one arm of God and evangelism in the World, there is something to be said for that.

I think despite the Left's best efforts, we will come close, but not go over the brink.

Just my opinion, backed up by nothing but the faith inside of me.

Edit: Whoever downvoted this without refuting it in your own words, you're a small brained moron who deep down inside knows I'm right.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 9:44 am
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:28 pm to
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I think genetic engineering has huge potential for class warfare. Imagine the rich and elite being able to choose their kids IQs, their athleticism, their looks, the personalities, their immunity to diseases, etc. Now imagine that technology trickling down, slowly to the upper class, then to upper middle, and so down. The lower class will get left behind more than it is now. They will not be able to compete at all.


They can just use the OT for all of their genetic templates in that case.

But really this is terrifying. Hopefully that day is very far off.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:29 pm to
I think a big one would be if trump made it illegal for single moms to use dating apps or go to bars
Posted by Pentagon69
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:35 pm to
I turn 69 later this year. Lived thru the tumult of the 60’s. That will be nothing compared to the political reorganization gripping the world today. Advances in technology will make it impossible to predict exactly how society will be shaped in 50 years. Suffice it to say the planet will be organized along the globalist versus nationalist lines. Expect a global catastrophe determine what direction we lean towards with anarchy eventually replaced by totalitarianism on a planetary level, leading to the doom of humankind. So sad.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:33 pm to
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I turn 69 later this year. Lived thru the tumult of the 60’s. That will be nothing compared to the political reorganization gripping the world today. Advances in technology will make it impossible to predict exactly how society will be shaped in 50 years. Suffice it to say the planet will be organized along the globalist versus nationalist lines. Expect a global catastrophe determine what direction we lean towards with anarchy eventually replaced by totalitarianism on a planetary level, leading to the doom of humankind. So sad




Humankind did just fine under monarchs and warlords for most of our history.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 9:44 pm to
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Jobless future from automation bringing about mass civil unrest


3 hots and a cot.
Free medical.

Opportunity to learn in school.

Cyber warfare for the 1%.

Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
55320 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 10:29 pm to
There is a strong international movement to bring the Age of the Nation-States to an end.

This Age began in 1648, when the end of a long and destructive war resulted in the birth of Modern Europe.

As the 21st Century nears its close in 2099 and 2100, this movement will really have gathered strength, and many people will be very open to a Model of Governance that subordinates the sovereignty of their nation-state to the authority of a higher entity -- a Global Entity and a Global Model of Governance.

This New World Government will be quite authoritarian, because the problems of the Globe will be severe and people will believe that a strong hand will be more efficient. People will accept that the World's wealth must be equitably re-distributed, and they will accept that a Global Entity would best work by having the authority to implement the policies best suited to re-distribute the wealth -- even if this implementation requires force.

Dissidents who are opposed to this Global Governance Model will find it difficult to fit into society, because their dissident opinions won't be respected. They will be punished, instead, and their punishment will be encouraged by society. The private companies that will control all modes of our ability to communicate with each other will certainly shut off and expel all dissidents who continue to violate "company policy" governing "hate speech".

This new World Govt to come will be Collectivist and will have the power to enforce collectivist policies. It will be ruthlessly secular and as Anti-Christian as some of the communist countries of the past have been. China today may one day be seen as the correct model for the future Government to deal with Christianity.

The USA itself will most certainly exist in the year 2101. Whether the USA resembles anything like a constitutional republic in 2101 is unknown. I surmise that because the Age of the Nation-State is being ended by powerful forces, the USA may not have the desire to maintain the indicia of a constitutional republic. By then, the USA may be actively taking steps to dismantle the structure of the constitutional republic in order to accommodate the movement to subordinate all nation-states to a higher entity in compliance with the Model for Global Governance.

Whether the USA exists at all in the year 2201 is certainly not predestined -- not by God and not by History. I suspect that at some future point, the USA will no longer exist, if only because the people occupying this land will one day vote to change the name. Of course, by that point in time, all vestiges of the constitutional republic founded in 1776 will be long gone and largely forgotten.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 10:53 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 9:36 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:22 pm to
Tribulation, but it won't take 50 years.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:29 pm to
Your generation and younger are my hope. In you I see a great blend of the ability to live and let live without judgement, coupled with a newfound expectation that, regardless of lifestyle or choices, people need to take personal responsibility. Fiscal conservatives, but social liberals. The millenials above you don't have this rational ability to straddle this chasm...for the most part...
You are our hope....Oh, and Donald John Trump....
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
43904 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:31 pm to
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It could be really bad, like civil war bad, eventually

That's inevitable. It's happened in every single society in history ... and it'll eventually happen to ours.

Problem is that this country is being invaded, taken over and outbred by foreigners with no particular affection for this country. So the good guys will likely be outnumbered and too old to fight back in 50-60 years.
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