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re: Where do you guys see the U.S headed in the next 50-60 years?

Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:10 pm to
For a 25 year old, you seem to have a good grasp on the situation. It's hard to make a prediction, and very distressing when I even think about it. Part of me says there will have to be a catastrophic event to restore any resemblance to the America our founders fought for so valiantly. Any real change back in the direction we need to go must start in our perverted public school system and that seems unlikely, however, as a Christian man, I believe God is actually steering the ship and will make the final determination.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:12 pm to
Why would a person that believes the country is going to collapse within their lifetime bring a child into the world?

Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Why would a person that believes the country is going to collapse within their lifetime bring a child into the world?




Uh if you read my post the kid was never planned.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:14 pm to
IMO..


We'll be a shithole country. We won't be allowed to voice our thoughts. We will not be allowed to be critical of anything we disagree with. The government will provide us with a list on proper things to like and say...and we must follow that list.

All billboards will display live coverage from CNN and MSNBC.

We will all be dirt poor.. but we'll have free internet and free tablets that we'll be forced to use multiple times a day in order to take government surveys...and to report people that are not like the rest of us.

A great firewall will be in place to prevent us from visiting any sites that aren't approved by our government.

Childbirth must be preapproved.. if a woman becomes pregnant without having the proper approval from our government, she'll be forced to get an abortion.

Our military, soldiers loyal to our government, will be used to enforce the new rules.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:15 pm to
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Uh if you read my post the kid was never planned.



My point still remains.

Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:16 pm to
I’ve always had faith in the strengths and resiliency of America. The country will survive and most likely prosper. There will also be a loud minority claiming we are headed to hell in a handbasket. It’s just the way it happens in a diverse democratic republic.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:16 pm to
Abortion was never an option.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:18 pm to
Which tells me that you are betting life will be ok for your child and not completely full of despair and anguish.

Posted by Tigerdev
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:21 pm to
Just combine all the flag waving rah rah stuff with a bit more inclusion and a bit less fingerpointing and we have a populist message that suits a more moderate coalition.
The sane 20 percent need to take the country back from the extremists on both sides of the aisle.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:21 pm to
I'll be honest I don't know what's gonna happen. I just have little confidence that at the end if this century America and the world will go through a massive transformation and it won't be fir the better. It's best to follow the advice my dad gave to me and just focus on what's good for you and your family
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:22 pm to
walking through the local super Wal-Mart does not give me much confidence.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:24 pm to
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I just have little confidence that at the end if this century America and the world will go through a massive transformation and it won't be fir the better.


No doubt the world is going to transform. Whether or not its for the better, well, we shall see.

quote:

It's best to follow the advice my dad gave to me and just focus on what's good for you and your family


The best advice.

Ignore the fear mongering and focus on what important. Focus on what you can control.

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:25 pm to
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I'm a millienial

It was a joke


I know. I was just tagging on to your comment
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Those statistics don't help your case at all. 42.4% is disturbing



Never said it wasn't disturbing. However, you said it was skyrocketing. It is not. It's moving in the right direction.
Posted by Boatshoes
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:35 pm to
Technology is powerless to change human nature. It merely allows itself to express itself more efficiently,
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:36 pm to
That was my bad

The dating apps have me full of anecdotal single mom evidence
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:37 pm to
"A bit more inclusion"


Who is not included?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:37 pm to
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Why would a person that believes the country is going to collapse within their lifetime bring a child into the world?


There are other countries
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:38 pm to
Or Alaska
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:52 pm to
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quote:
Society has a way of correcting itself. We see cultural shifts from right to left and back again every decade or so.

I think we are overall drifting left, and I expect us to drift left further and further.

I do agree that we can't even conceive of what society will be like 50 years. The rate of technological change is just accelerating.


Not sure I agree with that.

The U.S. - and frankly, the Western world in general - has drifted left on some issues over the last couple of generations and has drifted right on other issues.

The acceptance of ethnic minorities, immigrants, different religions, and people with alternative lifestyles has certainly increased in the last fifty years or so. America has become more liberal on abortion than it has ever been. The country generally cares more about the environment now than it used to, though that's kind of waned and waxed since at least Theodore Roosevelt.

The U.S. - and the Western world in general - is a lot more conservative economically than it was fifty years ago. Most of the developed worlds' economies were in the shitter by the mid-1970's after about thirty years of a steady migration left in tax policy, regulation, ease of entrepreneurship, etc., etc. Europe, especially, had to learn that lesson the hard way. I think we're becoming more conservative - in the Burkean sense of the word - with regards to foreign policy after a couple of generations' worth of misadventures. The population hasn't moved at all regarding gun rights, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

I think Andrew Sullivan had a lot right in his recent article, and I think we are poised to take an abrupt turn the other way in the near future. The country will drift left economically but right socially - especially regarding immigration - in the coming decades. I think the animus regarding immigration isn't limited to Trump's whinging rhetoric at all, and it's going to take time to fully absorb 80+ million first- and second-generation Americans into a cohesive society. I think those problems will be even more acute in Europe. Concerning inclusiveness, I don't foresee any major cultural wars like gay marriage or the civil rights movement on the horizon, and the one area that gets the most focus here (policing) is a pretty messy and complicated issue that involves a lot of African-Americans and Latinos on the other end of the badge as well (i.e., it's not a clean right/wrong issue for most people).
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