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What's the argument FOR birthright citizenship?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:42 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:42 am
I understand the argument(s) behind the SCOTUS ruling...but more broadly what's the argument for keeping it as is?
Legitimately can't think of one.
Legitimately can't think of one.
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:45 am to DeathValley85
Feudalism
It’s based on English common law whereby if you were born on the kings land you were his subject (slave).
Democrats love their slaves!
It’s based on English common law whereby if you were born on the kings land you were his subject (slave).
Democrats love their slaves!
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:46 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:45 am to DeathValley85
For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:46 am to DeathValley85
Free sex with foreign women 
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:49 am to DeathValley85
It made sense in a growing burgeoning huge country that still needed an increasing population to be a productive place.
It makes no sense in our current welfare state.
It makes no sense in our current welfare state.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:49 am to TBoy
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know
You mean like the Chinese who send women over here who are nine months pregnant to have their babies on American soil and then bring them back and raise them in China? Then, years later, they send them over here as US citizens to be Chinese spies.
Or, do you mean the Mexicans, who cross the border illegally to have their babies here so that then they’ll be allowed to import their entire f*cking family over here on the chain migration laws. All the while, of course, the entire f*cking lazy family is on the government dole.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:49 am to TBoy
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.
no way you actually believe this. A newborn child who is born in America and immediately taken back to their parents country to be raised has absolutely zero right to anything in America.Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:50 am to DeathValley85
With birthright citizenship, paperwork is really easy. The kid is born at the hospital in the states, it’s automatically a citizen, the kid gets a birth certificate printed for them.
Without birthright citizenship, suddenly there’s a lot of questions that have to be asked and a whole lot of vagueries to be answered. It creates a lot of grey areas, additional bureaucracy, and questions which means litigation. It’s not automatic that the kid born in the hospital is a citizen.
Justice Roberts is not an originalist or a formalist. Above all things, he is an institutionalist. He seeks to preserve the Supreme Court and tends to bias against decisions that would result in massive amounts of new litigation. Essentially, eliminating birthright citizenship for millions of people by judicial or executive decree would create massive amounts of chaos and litigation to sort it out. While lawyers might love that, Roberts does not. The federal court system is already clogged enough as it is.
Without birthright citizenship, suddenly there’s a lot of questions that have to be asked and a whole lot of vagueries to be answered. It creates a lot of grey areas, additional bureaucracy, and questions which means litigation. It’s not automatic that the kid born in the hospital is a citizen.
Justice Roberts is not an originalist or a formalist. Above all things, he is an institutionalist. He seeks to preserve the Supreme Court and tends to bias against decisions that would result in massive amounts of new litigation. Essentially, eliminating birthright citizenship for millions of people by judicial or executive decree would create massive amounts of chaos and litigation to sort it out. While lawyers might love that, Roberts does not. The federal court system is already clogged enough as it is.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:50 am to TBoy
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.
No.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:50 am to DeathValley85
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the argument FOR birthright citizenship
The UniParty knows it needs a vast army of low-IQ browns who come from cultures where people are terrified of, and totally obedient to, their government. It's a terrible argument, but we all know that's the real reason...
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:51 am to DeathValley85
Cheap labor.
New markets and demographics for publicly traded companies.
We are below replacement rate on native births.
More dependents on government means more power to the government.
Lower percent of white people means that it’s easier to get the revolution moving in earnest.
New markets and demographics for publicly traded companies.
We are below replacement rate on native births.
More dependents on government means more power to the government.
Lower percent of white people means that it’s easier to get the revolution moving in earnest.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:52 am to DeathValley85
Don't think it's right to force a teenager or adult who has lived their entire life in the US to move to some random country they've never been to simply because their parents moved here illegally. That person is an American in my eyes.
Now as for, say, a three-year-old who was born here? They can be sent back and it wouldn't bother me.
Where we draw the line though is fuzzy, and I'd rather let any birthright person stay than send back adult Americans.
Now as for, say, a three-year-old who was born here? They can be sent back and it wouldn't bother me.
Where we draw the line though is fuzzy, and I'd rather let any birthright person stay than send back adult Americans.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:52 am to TBoy
Time to reacquaint them with where they came from. Hopefully the he border tightens up.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:52 am to TBoy
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.
Typical faggotry.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:53 am to DeathValley85
Here, I'll give you a hint.......,
The Brookings Institute polled 2600 first time 1st generation immigrant voters in 2024 and asked them who they were voting for in 2024 for POTUS. 54% said Harris and 38% said Trump the rest were either not voting or undecided.
This^^^ should give you some insight to your OP question.
The Brookings Institute polled 2600 first time 1st generation immigrant voters in 2024 and asked them who they were voting for in 2024 for POTUS. 54% said Harris and 38% said Trump the rest were either not voting or undecided.
This^^^ should give you some insight to your OP question.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:53 am to TBoy
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.
Not Always comrade.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:53 am to Yokelhoma
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Don't think it's right to force a teenager or adult who has lived their entire life in the US to move to some random country they've never been to simply because their parents moved here illegally. That person is an American in my eyes.
Why are you making a dumbassed argument about retroactive stuff?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:54 am to Y.A. Tittle
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It made sense in a growing burgeoning huge country that still needed an increasing population to be a productive place.
It makes no sense in our current welfare state.
This
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:55 am to TBoy
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know
You're still a kid aren't you. With this take, you gotta be.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:58 am to TBoy
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.
Imagine ten generations of Mexicans living their live in Mexico, and then a Mexican couple illegally cross our border and are now residing in the United States.
They do not assimilate, they do not pay taxes, they do not become a part of the contributors. They are only major net takers as they get free healthcare, free housing, free schooling for their other children, free SNAP, free everything, and it all comes from the 50% working class in this country.
That means they are STEALING from myself and my children.
These Mexicans are also sending money back home nearly tax free to friends and family, further hurting the American economy.
They then get pregnant and shite out a Mexican baby on the American taxpayer dime and now that Mexican baby that will never speak English cleanly, will never assimilate into American culture, will be taught to hate America and wave Mexican flags at "No Kings" protests all around the country and will continue the cycle of STEALING money from myself and my children should be granted American Citizenship?
Seriously, frick you for even contemplating that as a moral and just scenario. You people constantly prove that you are an enemy to myself and my family. I hate you with a passsion.
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