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What's the argument FOR birthright citizenship?

Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:42 am
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
19373 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:42 am
I understand the argument(s) behind the SCOTUS ruling...but more broadly what's the argument for keeping it as is?

Legitimately can't think of one.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
36815 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:45 am to
Feudalism
It’s based on English common law whereby if you were born on the kings land you were his subject (slave).

Democrats love their slaves!
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29107 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:45 am to
For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
14039 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:46 am to
Free sex with foreign women
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111616 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:49 am to
It made sense in a growing burgeoning huge country that still needed an increasing population to be a productive place.

It makes no sense in our current welfare state.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
24743 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:49 am to
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know



You mean like the Chinese who send women over here who are nine months pregnant to have their babies on American soil and then bring them back and raise them in China? Then, years later, they send them over here as US citizens to be Chinese spies.

Or, do you mean the Mexicans, who cross the border illegally to have their babies here so that then they’ll be allowed to import their entire f*cking family over here on the chain migration laws. All the while, of course, the entire f*cking lazy family is on the government dole.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69634 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:49 am to
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.

no way you actually believe this. A newborn child who is born in America and immediately taken back to their parents country to be raised has absolutely zero right to anything in America.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71130 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:50 am to
With birthright citizenship, paperwork is really easy. The kid is born at the hospital in the states, it’s automatically a citizen, the kid gets a birth certificate printed for them.

Without birthright citizenship, suddenly there’s a lot of questions that have to be asked and a whole lot of vagueries to be answered. It creates a lot of grey areas, additional bureaucracy, and questions which means litigation. It’s not automatic that the kid born in the hospital is a citizen.

Justice Roberts is not an originalist or a formalist. Above all things, he is an institutionalist. He seeks to preserve the Supreme Court and tends to bias against decisions that would result in massive amounts of new litigation. Essentially, eliminating birthright citizenship for millions of people by judicial or executive decree would create massive amounts of chaos and litigation to sort it out. While lawyers might love that, Roberts does not. The federal court system is already clogged enough as it is.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 10:58 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87726 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:50 am to
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.



No.
Posted by Oswald
South of the St. George Buffer Zone
Member since Aug 2011
4507 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:50 am to
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the argument FOR birthright citizenship

The UniParty knows it needs a vast army of low-IQ browns who come from cultures where people are terrified of, and totally obedient to, their government. It's a terrible argument, but we all know that's the real reason...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129675 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:51 am to
Cheap labor.

New markets and demographics for publicly traded companies.

We are below replacement rate on native births.

More dependents on government means more power to the government.

Lower percent of white people means that it’s easier to get the revolution moving in earnest.
Posted by Yokelhoma
Member since Jul 2021
298 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:52 am to
Don't think it's right to force a teenager or adult who has lived their entire life in the US to move to some random country they've never been to simply because their parents moved here illegally. That person is an American in my eyes.

Now as for, say, a three-year-old who was born here? They can be sent back and it wouldn't bother me.

Where we draw the line though is fuzzy, and I'd rather let any birthright person stay than send back adult Americans.

Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
5688 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:52 am to
Time to reacquaint them with where they came from. Hopefully the he border tightens up.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129675 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:52 am to
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.


Typical faggotry.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56643 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:53 am to
Here, I'll give you a hint.......,

The Brookings Institute polled 2600 first time 1st generation immigrant voters in 2024 and asked them who they were voting for in 2024 for POTUS. 54% said Harris and 38% said Trump the rest were either not voting or undecided.

This^^^ should give you some insight to your OP question.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
13599 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:53 am to
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.


Not Always comrade.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129675 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:53 am to
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Don't think it's right to force a teenager or adult who has lived their entire life in the US to move to some random country they've never been to simply because their parents moved here illegally. That person is an American in my eyes.


Why are you making a dumbassed argument about retroactive stuff?
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
856 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:54 am to
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It made sense in a growing burgeoning huge country that still needed an increasing population to be a productive place.

It makes no sense in our current welfare state.


This
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7182 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:55 am to
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know

You're still a kid aren't you. With this take, you gotta be.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45293 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:58 am to
You really do hate America…don’t you.
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