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re: What's the argument FOR birthright citizenship?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:16 pm to DeathValley85
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:16 pm to DeathValley85
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What's the argument FOR birthright citizenship?
I think since there are millions and millions of these birth citizens, the USSC decided the risk to society (violence) was too great to have them subject to being kicked out of the country.
Now it’s time for Congress to do it’s job.
LOL Yeah right
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:17 pm to UptownJoeBrown
Let’s do away with duel citizenship at least!
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:19 pm to kingbob
Good description of what the policy argument is. I think that on balance, it’s not a great policy bc of perverse incentives but there are some benefits. In any case, this was about law, not policy.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:20 pm to lionward2014
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Cite to 1 example in the last 160 years where a person who is a only a citizen because of birthright citizenship has risen to power in the US.
Irrelevant.
It is the future that concerns me.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:20 pm to jimmy the leg
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I dont think TBoy believes in any of this BS
Low-t is a true believer.
I feel quite confident that he would press the button to deliver the gas if a “non-believer “ were in the chamber.
So is/would the totally "true conservative," TDSFPLC
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:21 pm to lionward2014
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Today's ruling didn't change anything that has been happening for 160 years though. Again, Congress can, and should, restrict dual nationals from holding elected office. Pretty sure one of the reps from Ohio already proposed a bill for it.
You think even one Democrat will vote for it?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:14 pm to DeathValley85
We need to amend the 14th to exclude birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens, temporary residents, enemies of America and undesirable, unproductive or incompatible immigrant groups.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:27 pm to Auburn1968
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We need to amend the 14th to exclude birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens, temporary residents, enemies of America and undesirable, unproductive or incompatible immigrant groups.
If we have the votes to amend with that language, by all means. I don't think we do though.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:33 pm to DeathValley85
It's led to the greatest country on Earth.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:43 pm to The_Duke
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It's led to the greatest country on Earth
No. No it hasn't. Immigration from Europe led to that and we had quotas and some were just not allowed. Unfettered immigration is called mass migration. You may want to check historical records. It has happened thousands of times in history. Never did the host nation ever survive.
So, GTFOH with your simpleton BS.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:53 pm to BTROleMisser
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Except for the hundreds of thousands of foreign birth tourism babies that are born here ever year now
There are approximately 3.6 million babies born in America every year. Every one of them is a citizen of the United States by birth.
Based upon the best estimates I have seen, birth tourism accounts for as many as 20,000 of those babies, which is much more than I expected. But you are still inflating the birth tourism by multiples of 20 or 30.
I know that right wingers can't function except on daily outrage and emotion, but this thread is surprising in the unrestrained level of emotional craziness.
And I would bet that everyone posting in this thread, if they are a US citizen, is a citizen by birth.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:10 pm to UtahCajun
Are we not the greatest country on Earth?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:57 pm to DeathValley85
Enemies, both foreign and domestic love it.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:59 pm to The_Duke
You are next level stupid, even for a goose-stepper.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:01 pm to kingbob
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Essentially, eliminating birthright citizenship for millions of people by judicial or executive decree would create massive amounts of chaos and litigation to sort it out. While lawyers might love that, Roberts does not. The federal court system is already clogged enough as it is.
Not a good reason at all but I have never heard of any proposal to strip persons already granted citizenship but only ending the policy and hence no legal backlog from that.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:01 pm to The_Duke
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Are we not the greatest country on Earth?
Yes…
Despite oppositional defiance from the left.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:05 pm to TBoy
I noticed that you left out the anchor babies and the subsequent familial extensions that eventually accompany them.
Many of them living off of the government tit for life.
Again, you supporting such nonsense just illustrates how much that you and your leftist ilk hate America.
Many of them living off of the government tit for life.
Again, you supporting such nonsense just illustrates how much that you and your leftist ilk hate America.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:06 pm to The_Duke
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Are we not the greatest country on Earth?
Yes, despite people like you
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:16 pm to The_Duke
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Are we not the greatest country on Earth?
Not for long
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:44 pm to TBoy
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Based upon the best estimates I have seen, birth tourism accounts for as many as 20,000 of those babies, which is much more than I expected. But you are still inflating the birth tourism by multiples of 20 or 30.
Should be 0, and the issue is wider than that. Which you know but are willfully ignoring.
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I know that right wingers can't function except on daily outrage and emotion, but this thread is surprising in the unrestrained level of emotional craziness.
Deflection away from your unpopular position.
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And I would bet that everyone posting in this thread, if they are a US citizen, is a citizen by birth.
Irrelevant.
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