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re: What's the argument FOR birthright citizenship?

Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:15 pm to
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For those that are born here, this is their homeland, and the only homeland they know.


Except for the hundreds of thousands of foreign birth tourism babies that are born here ever year now, and then they're taken back to China and other countries... but get to enjoy perks of American "citizenship" when it benefits them... or their true country's political agenda.

Other than that... Sure.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10738 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:16 pm to
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What's the argument FOR birthright citizenship?


I think since there are millions and millions of these birth citizens, the USSC decided the risk to society (violence) was too great to have them subject to being kicked out of the country.

Now it’s time for Congress to do it’s job.

LOL Yeah right
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10738 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:17 pm to
Let’s do away with duel citizenship at least!
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7928 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:19 pm to
Good description of what the policy argument is. I think that on balance, it’s not a great policy bc of perverse incentives but there are some benefits. In any case, this was about law, not policy.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44793 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:20 pm to
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Cite to 1 example in the last 160 years where a person who is a only a citizen because of birthright citizenship has risen to power in the US.


Irrelevant.

It is the future that concerns me.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
15069 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:20 pm to
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I dont think TBoy believes in any of this BS


Low-t is a true believer.

I feel quite confident that he would press the button to deliver the gas if a “non-believer “ were in the chamber.


So is/would the totally "true conservative," TDSFPLC
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
15069 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:21 pm to
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Today's ruling didn't change anything that has been happening for 160 years though. Again, Congress can, and should, restrict dual nationals from holding elected office. Pretty sure one of the reps from Ohio already proposed a bill for it.


You think even one Democrat will vote for it?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27031 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:14 pm to

We need to amend the 14th to exclude birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens, temporary residents, enemies of America and undesirable, unproductive or incompatible immigrant groups.

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23310 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:27 pm to
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We need to amend the 14th to exclude birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens, temporary residents, enemies of America and undesirable, unproductive or incompatible immigrant groups.



If we have the votes to amend with that language, by all means. I don't think we do though.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4611 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:33 pm to
It's led to the greatest country on Earth.

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6413 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:43 pm to
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It's led to the greatest country on Earth

No. No it hasn't. Immigration from Europe led to that and we had quotas and some were just not allowed. Unfettered immigration is called mass migration. You may want to check historical records. It has happened thousands of times in history. Never did the host nation ever survive.

So, GTFOH with your simpleton BS.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28855 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Except for the hundreds of thousands of foreign birth tourism babies that are born here ever year now

There are approximately 3.6 million babies born in America every year. Every one of them is a citizen of the United States by birth.

Based upon the best estimates I have seen, birth tourism accounts for as many as 20,000 of those babies, which is much more than I expected. But you are still inflating the birth tourism by multiples of 20 or 30.

I know that right wingers can't function except on daily outrage and emotion, but this thread is surprising in the unrestrained level of emotional craziness.

And I would bet that everyone posting in this thread, if they are a US citizen, is a citizen by birth.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4611 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:10 pm to
Are we not the greatest country on Earth?
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