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re: What type of people go into the teaching profession currently?

Posted on 12/25/24 at 12:30 am to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/25/24 at 12:30 am to
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Whenever you say "easy job," I tune you out. Spend 1 class period with any grade level and get back to me.

Teaching is a terrible job. Long hours, terrible pay, kids with shitty parents who act up, the shitty parents themselves harassing you, low chance of career progression.


The only thing that makes it even feasible to be a teacher now is summers to work a second job. And for those who choose to coach and spend their nights and weekends teaching and dealing with the kids kudos cause the pay isn't worth it.


I wouldn't want the headache of your middle or highschool kids for my current salary and honestly most teachers will never make close to that unfortunately.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 12:35 am to
The (great) aunt that raised my sister and I was a single classroom English teacher, who survived the Great depression.
I don't remember reasons for why she taught.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3302 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 12:52 am to
Teachers at my kids’ Catholic schools are:
1. White women who actually enjoy teaching and helping children. Most of their husbands are in oil and gas and machinery sales and insurance sales and project managers and engineers and pharmacists and doctors and such. The teachers don’t need the teaching income but do it because they want to.
2. White men who want to coach championship caliber sports.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58536 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 1:25 am to
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who want an easy job


Weird that there’s such a huge shortage of teachers when it’s such an easy job.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34066 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:13 am to
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those who cannot do, teach.

To quote a pedophile
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:24 am to
you make it sound like it's an easy job but the hard part would be managing all those young people's personalities (no matter what age group) and influences and getting them to learn.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47814 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:46 am to
I went into teaching in 2002 after moving back to Leesville following my 2nd retirement (NASA, Photo Studio) and found myself with not much to do.

In the spirit of "giving back" I started substitute teaching and soon they wanted me to 'get certified' to teach math full time. I jumped at the chance because I really loved interacting with the students - and they seemed to respond to my 'method' - which was nothing more than teaching the BASICs - not of these stupid acronyms - they had to teach ME what things like PEMDAS, FOIL, etc meant.

It was AMAZING to watch them completely absorb the most basic elements of math, after struggling to memorize acronyms and what the letters meant, and when they were applicable. Everything to me was just pure LOGIC that was easy to follow.

HOWEVER - once I got my certification and started teaching full time, the wrath of the supervisory state in the form of "Common Core Standards" started hitting below the belt.

I reviewed the 'standards' and for math they were perfectly ok - if not logical.

It was the IMPLEMENTATION of the 'standards' that became the nightmare - every supervisory position from the POTUS on down had to have their OWN 'proof' that 'they' were doing 'their' jobs!!!

SO - then became the tsunamis of Review Meetings where we presented our "progress' in meeting the standards - and every one of them had a different 'comparison chart' to show the 'improvement' from the testing that had been done years before and today's testing results.

SO - the LABOR began in having to review 4 year old student 'achievement' in the form of charts showing how much more they had learned following the 'new standards' (never mind that now 3/4 of our time was required researching past data and preparing charts, and writing reports on how individuals were 'progressing' and attending meetings where high priced 'experts' from who-knows-where came in to show us new ways of folding paper into interesting forms so that we could present a new 'way to learn'

After a couple of years of that and some significant health problems, I called it quits in early 2013 - just could not attend even one more of those idiotic meetings.

I still miss the basic elements of teaching - but that 'new' crap was a loser for everyone except the supervisory class.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 7:47 am
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1280 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 7:57 am to
The high school expierence today is absolutely nothing like when we went to high school.... like comparing apples to oranges
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124796 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:10 am to
That’s not the hard part anymore.

The hard part is you have two fent babies and two shitheads in a classroom. Disregulated kids who almost cannot control their emotions and who will be triggered by almost unidentifiable actions. They will make learning close to impossible for the rest of the class at unpredictable times and intervals.

They will be sent to office and, because they have an IEP that says it’s just in their nature to be a piece of shite kid, they will be returned to the classroom to repeat the cycle until they behave so egregiously that they get a 3-5 day suspension. The class gets a brief respite and the process begin again.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 8:11 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
41760 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:14 am to
Crazy cat ladies and fans of the playground.
Posted by Babu
Member since Sep 2023
25 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:14 am to
Many teachers I know see their careers as a calling of God and view their classrooms as missionary fields.

Not in the sense of proselytizing to every kid who comes through their doors. More so to be a mature adult figure for kids who desperately need one.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17139 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:25 am to
What I have witnessed are the "teachers" are taking a lot of days off and the very incompetent "substitutes" are filling in. Hence, students are held back and do not get me started on the "special needs" students that wreak havoc on the stable classroom environment.

Do not get me wrong, there are incredible teachers out there. But the school administrations do not care about the students. The school administrators only care about how they "look" to the government officials in charge.

We must get the federal government out of the school environment.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10728 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:33 am to
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Weird that there’s such a huge shortage of teachers when it’s such an easy job


It’s because the pay is no where close to commiserate with the shite they have to put up with. Not because the actually job is hard to qualify for.

If I were king I’d make teachers income the same as doctors, but the requirements also just as strict as doctors.

When you offer to pay shitty wages, you get shitty employees.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124796 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:53 am to
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If I were king I’d make teachers income the same as doctors, but the requirements also just as strict as doctors.


That won’t work. Ever. The economics don’t support the idea.

Teachers in Missouri are, for the most part, compensated completely adequately if the students were disciplined properly. The benefit of summers off, matching schedules to your kids and good health insurance and amazing pension benefits only work if a teacher isn’t scared of being beaten up in the classroom.

Fix the discipline situation and you’ll largely fix the teacher shortage issue.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10728 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:58 am to
Sorry, I disagree. Look at who majors in education in college. Most (but not all) are people who didn’t do well in school and couldn’t hack it in engineering, medicine, or other more intellectually strenuous fields.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7652 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:12 am to
You're an idiot.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:20 am to
Marxists. Govt employees are the biggest welfare recipients in America.

They’re a parasites on America sucking the taxpayer teet dry.
Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1655 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:25 am to
My wife and I have made solid financial decisions up to this point and are well on track to be able to retire in our 50's if we wanted to. If things keep goin this way for the next 10-15 years I think teaching for prolly a decade or so instead of retiring out right for a change of pace and to stay in the workforce while having a schedule synced with potential grandkids is something I am considering and is the reason i have started working toward my master's and teaching requirements to make this an option should I choose it.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85421 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:42 am to
Cooking and teaching used to be a respectable profession. Those jobs are now filled with tatted up criminals and sexual deviants.


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116630 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 9:44 am to
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My wife and I have made solid financial decisions up to this point and are well on track to be able to retire in our 50's if we wanted to.

I've known some people with interesting motivations to teach and do well financially.
One was an engineer who turned 30 and realized that he didn't enjoy the job even though he made good money for 8 years. He was invited to build a house on his wealthy dad's large rural property and he got a job teaching HS science classes. They were so scarce of science teachers that they allowed him to work full time while he took some classes for the stupid teacher's certificate. He and his nurse wife also had free child care with his parents living very close by.
Another case was a couple who both taught HS science. They moved to Alaska for 10 years where teachers made much more money than La. They lived like paupers since stuff is expensive is Alaska. They saved enough to move back here and buy a nice house after 10 years of saving. Then they went back to teaching here until retirement.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 9:46 am
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