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Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:27 pm to RFK
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1. World’s largest navy (400+ ships by 2025, including 3 carriers).
This keeps getting thrown around, but we have them beat over 4:1 in combat tonnage. Plus, China has NEVER been a maritime power. They simply don't know how to do it....which is why England, France, Russia, and Japan have always had their way with them.
Our best course of action would probably be just to close the Strait of Malacca and Timor Sea and keep it closed until such a time as Xi abdicated power AND China completely disarms. Keep in mind that China imports 75% of their energy and 75% of their food and agricultural inputs through that waterway. With it closed, China loses half their population to famine in under a year.
I just don't see China making that move. They'll never take the semiconductor fab facilities intact and wouldn't know how to operate them even if they did. All they'd get is a small mountainous island with no natural resources and 25 million mouths to feed. Could Xi try anyway because he's an egomaniac? Sure. But it'll be the end of Xi and the end of China.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:30 pm to SPT
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How strong of a military does Japan have, being on a leash?
They have the 2nd strongest blue water expeditionary navy in the world. The strongest one is holding the leash, both militarily and economically.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:34 pm to Tantal
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Plus, China has NEVER been a maritime power. They simply don't know how to do it
To be fair, I'm not sure we know how to do it either. our Navy is a joke of wrecks and navigation issues over the last decade and we apparently have lost the ability to protect the seaways as well based on how much the Houthis are fricking up global trade.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:36 pm to RFK
Beijing ruins would lie below a huge mushroom cloud.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:37 pm to Tantal
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Tantal
Thank you!
Much of those big numbers listed as part of the China navy would be a normal work boat in south La.
And I'm not sure China could even get their boats and logistics support over to Taiwan.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:41 pm to JCdawg
Chips are a small part of all this. We still do not want China to take Taiwan because it'll just be the first step of their conquest goals.
The CCP is hellbent on taking over as the premier world power. This isn't the boogeyman Russia. They want expansion because like Japan in WW2, they are doomed without doing so.
The CCP is hellbent on taking over as the premier world power. This isn't the boogeyman Russia. They want expansion because like Japan in WW2, they are doomed without doing so.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:54 pm to OneAboveAll
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Nobody is scared of Trump. Trump on his knees in front of Putin in their secret meeting. I swear, you lowly educated individuals.
1. Why didn't China invade Taiwan during Trump?
2. Why didn't Russia invade Ukraine during Trump?
3. Why are you so stupid if you're so educated?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:14 pm to Penrod
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Complete 100% economic warfare. Boycott all Chinese products and companies. Boycott all nations who do not join the US boycott. Confiscate all Chinese money and goods that we can lay our hands on. This will bring China to its knees quickly.
Trump started the process of insulating ourselves from China. We have been strategically reshoring critical things. Fortunately this was one of the only Trump policies that dodo continued. Keep doing that. China is racing to position itself to strike and we are racing to position ourselves for economic warfare. We should win this one easily.
simply stop feeding them.
Stop allowing oil tankers into Chinese water
Etc. Etc.
They suck. They made a terrible population mistake on top of being a communist dictatorship.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:25 pm to RFK
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World’s largest navy (400+ ships by 2025, including 3 carriers). This does not include the unknown number of merchant marine vessels PRC would be able to militarize on short notice.
They aren’t even remotely close to US Naval capabilities
Posted on 3/20/24 at 5:45 pm to Tandemjay
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Send every fbi agent, from top to bottom.
Supported by the ATF. All of them. And we can support them with the DoE. All of them.
That would be a good start.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:24 pm to TigerFanatic99
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:44 pm to Tandemjay
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Send every fbi agent, from top to bottom.
China’s a pretty tough adversary, best send every member of the FBI, CIA, ATF, IRS, DOD, DHS, CID, NRO, NSA, DEA, DOE, CDC, NIH, and DoE just to be safe.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:46 pm to OneAboveAll
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Trump wins they won't make a move. Nobody is scared of Trump. Trump on his knees in front of Putin in their secret meeting. I swear, you lowly educated individuals.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:47 pm to RFK
Helping in exchange for your chip technology now belongs to the USA
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:52 pm to Wednesday
Instead of focusing on war. I wish the US government was focusing on producing our own upstream supply chain. The politicians are just too corrupt and want to make money off the cheap labor overseas.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:05 pm to RFK
Do Taiwan a favor and end all foreign subsidies to the region.
The United States is too mercurial and duplicitous an ally.
Taiwan, Japan and South Korea could pool their resources to create a mutual defense league which should include developing a nuclear weapons program as a deterrent to Chinese aggression.
The United States is too mercurial and duplicitous an ally.
Taiwan, Japan and South Korea could pool their resources to create a mutual defense league which should include developing a nuclear weapons program as a deterrent to Chinese aggression.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:10 pm to Colonel Flagg
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producing our own upstream supply chain.
I really don’t think y’all understand what’s going to happen to inflation and such if you try and produce everything in the US
Posted on 3/20/24 at 7:16 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I follow some anti-war left and libertarian types and they feel the only real difference between the two parties is the Rs want to be more China hawks.
Whatever transpires, I’ve learned through many years of observation that when it comes to foreign policy, a good rule of thumb is to vigorously oppose whatever Lindsay Graham or Chuck Schumer suggest.
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 7:19 pm
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