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re: What is your take on the use of Flock Cameras?
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:41 am to America250
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:41 am to America250
Only if they can be locked from viewing and requested to be opened to a 24 on call judge in the state. All request public. But can all that be handled correctly.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:42 am to America250
Good citizens should start setting up cameras across the street from every police station and courthouse. Set them up across the street from a judge or police chief's house.
If they aren't doing anything wrong, what's the problem?
If they aren't doing anything wrong, what's the problem?
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:42 am to TimeOutdoors
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If people know they are more likely to get caught they will be more likely not to commit the crime.
Stupid and very naive opinion.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:42 am to Clames
Doesn’t matter if they get caught if the government never prosecutes them.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:43 am to America250
My take is: 'useful idiots' will take care of the *problem
*as long as they think we are 'for' them.
*as long as they think we are 'for' them.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:48 am to America250
Not only that they are collecting more info. than just the license plate and car information. They're getting cell phone data of the driver and all passengers as well as pulling credit info.
I saw something on X the other day where they put a flock camera across the street from a gun range in an area with low density. Apparently, they're tracking who goes to the gun range now.
I saw something on X the other day where they put a flock camera across the street from a gun range in an area with low density. Apparently, they're tracking who goes to the gun range now.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:49 am to America250
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These cameras are an unwarranted invasion of privacy. Since its a private company doing the surveillance, it allows law enforcement to access the data WITHOUT probable cause for a search warrant.
There is no expectation of privacy on public roads. They aren't searching your car just taking a picture of it and your plate. Cops run tags 10's of thousands of times a day without probable cause.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:50 am to TigerToGeaux
As reported yesterday, LEO used data from Flock to preemptively recognized how often a vehicle crossed a state line into a state and returned back to the state. Using that data they 'say' that pattern of travel gave them probable cause for a warrant to search for marijuana. The neighboring state sells it. The home state bans it.
THAT is a huge stretch. It makes a presumption of guilt merely because of how someone travels. There are maybe thousands of reasons why someone might do that besides going to buy the devil's weed. Cancer treatments. An ailing family member needs care and assistance. Maybe fishing is better there and you like to fish as a hobby. Or golf. Or shopping.
I hope the guy gets it thrown out of court. Even SFP could easily ask, "could it have been ANY reason other than buying pot? Any?" As soon as the answer comes out as, "Yes, but..." even SFP would ask for and get thrown out any evidence collected from a bad faith warrant.
THAT is a huge stretch. It makes a presumption of guilt merely because of how someone travels. There are maybe thousands of reasons why someone might do that besides going to buy the devil's weed. Cancer treatments. An ailing family member needs care and assistance. Maybe fishing is better there and you like to fish as a hobby. Or golf. Or shopping.
I hope the guy gets it thrown out of court. Even SFP could easily ask, "could it have been ANY reason other than buying pot? Any?" As soon as the answer comes out as, "Yes, but..." even SFP would ask for and get thrown out any evidence collected from a bad faith warrant.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 11:08 am
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:54 am to lsufan1971
Cops aren't building a database when they run your plates.
Citizens need to recall and vote out any politician that supports flock cameras in their cities and states.
Citizens need to recall and vote out any politician that supports flock cameras in their cities and states.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:55 am to timdonaghyswhistle
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But who tells us when they stop something "else?"
Yep that's the problem. There should be guard rails on that.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:00 am to America250
Extreme invasion of privacy and very much communistic. Watching over people in this manner decreases trust is the reason America must maintain the 2nd Amendment at all cost.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:04 am to geauxpurple
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I am okay with it. I have nothing to hide from a flock camera.
This, if you’re an honest American what’s the big deal? If they help take criminals off the streets then add more
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:06 am to America250
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If law enforcement has access to data that doesn't require a warrant, then that data should be available to the public.
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The 4th amendment is just as important as the 1st and 2n
If law enforcement has access to data that doesn't require a warrant, then that data should be available to the public.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:12 am to America250
"Big Brother is watching you" ~ George Orwell "1984"
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:28 am to TigerToGeaux
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Invasion of privacy and mass surveillance by government. No other way to view it.
I know a lot of people have this stance but you carry a mass surveillance device on you AT ALL TIMES
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:29 am to America250
The sad fact is that the proliferation of Flock and other cameras is inevitable as long as the criminal element is on the prowl.
Our country needs a spiritual revival. A free people can remain free only when they are also a moral people.
Our country needs a spiritual revival. A free people can remain free only when they are also a moral people.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:35 am to BCvol
I had a crime committed outside of my place of business, I reported it and the LEO came and literally pulled up the flock information right in front of me in an instant.
Could certainly be abused by anyone with access.
Don’t get me wrong, it seemed like a dream for catching bad guys. Is that worth sacrificing privacy and mass data harvesting by the gov?
I mean the NSA is harvesting this very conversation and surveilling all of us every day. Just because doing this allows for stopping some terrorist, does that mean it is a net positive for the United States citizens? I am not so sure.
Could certainly be abused by anyone with access.
Don’t get me wrong, it seemed like a dream for catching bad guys. Is that worth sacrificing privacy and mass data harvesting by the gov?
I mean the NSA is harvesting this very conversation and surveilling all of us every day. Just because doing this allows for stopping some terrorist, does that mean it is a net positive for the United States citizens? I am not so sure.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:48 am to America250
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin
Get them the frick out of here. I would bet on it 1000x over that all of these data centers are part of this bull shite surveillance. The name alone is spitting in your face too. Any dingus knows that sheep flock.
Get them the frick out of here. I would bet on it 1000x over that all of these data centers are part of this bull shite surveillance. The name alone is spitting in your face too. Any dingus knows that sheep flock.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:50 am to boogiewoogie1978
Yes but does local law enforcement have access to that data without a warrant?
Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:51 am to TigerToGeaux
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invasion of privacy by government. No other way to view it.
You voluntarily go out in public (on a public road). What is your expectation of privacy?
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