re: What is your take on the use of Flock Cameras?

quote:

---

Same, and I will continue driving with my tailgate down until the last one is removed.

---

Appreciate where you're coming from, so here's an extra tip. Even regular traffic cams can make a facial recognition match. Do more about protecting what can be seen through your front windshield too.

quote:

---

Watch it bub. If you wanna start the ad hominen bullshite, I'm not a fun person to get into a fight with. I'll let my posting history speak for me, because this ain't worth my time unless you wanna fight.

---

Your answer is unworthy of further response so do not worry. Good day you keyboard bad arse!

I hear the concern but do not understand the selective outrage. Of all the data bases that have been collected and are still being collected, Flock has more safeguards than most. The local government that leases the cameras (and determines where they are placed) also control what other agencies the info is shared with, how long the date is retained and who and under what circumstances the data can be viewed.

So if you want the Flock cameras removed, what about all those other data bases?

Seems like they could make it to where a search required a case number.

Of course then you'd have departments setting up fake cases as a repository for their fake searches.

*SIGH*
OK so before we kick this motherfricker off, I'll make you a deal.
I'll give up my guns to prevent crimes, when you give up your penis to prevent rapes.
Deal? OK You go first.

Come at me.
I'll get to you when I feel like it.


Ok, if you wanna call it, no prob. Sayonara.

The cameras have potential as a valuable tool for public safety. Unfortunately, there is a lot of potential for abuse. There should be standardized regulation and limits on their use.

The political board and these threads are always fun to watch the radicals come out.

quote:

---

I hear the concern but do not understand the selective outrage

---

The 4th Amendment ; Key Rules;

No Unreasonable Searches: Police cannot search your body, home, papers, or belongings without a valid reason.

Warrant Requirement: Officers must usually get a warrant from a judge.

Probable Cause: A warrant needs strong facts or proof that a crime happened.

Specific Details: Warrants must list the exact place to search and items to take.

In relation to being identified without consent: the Supreme Court ruled that if police have reasonable suspicion to stop you, state "stop and identify" laws can legally force you to state your name without violating the Fourth Amendment

Under the U.S. Constitution's Fourth Amendment, the right to not be identified depends on whether you are lawfully detained by police

The "Mosaic Theory" of Surveillance: In ?Carpenter v. United States, the Supreme Court ruled that police need a warrant to look at extended cell phone location history because tracking a person's long-term movements reveals private details of their life. Critics argue that modern Automated License Plate Readers (ALPRs) do the exact same thing by stitching together a complete picture of a driver's daily habits

Searching Past the "Plain View" Doctrine: While police can look at a license plate in public view, Flock cameras go further. They use AI to search for "vehicle signatures" (like roof racks, bumper stickers, or damage) and compile massive databases. Searching a historical, automated database weeks later is argued to be a warrantless search

Lack of Judicial Oversight: In many jurisdictions, police officers can query the Flock database at will. They do not need to show probable cause or get approval from a judge before looking up where a car has been over the past 30 days.


Just some light reading to educate you on the issue

What if they use them for the next scamdemic lock down if and when the dems finally get back in power?

quote:

---

However my point stands. All the other data bases I cited can be used to create a similar profile of someone's movements and actions. Requiring a warrant is far different than demanding the technology be banned. So what are people demanding Flock tech be banned but not the other?

---

Playing whataboutism with Constitutional rights is absurd. Flock cameras are shite. Mass surveillance. No fricking thank you. Stop trying to defend the indefensable.

The ENDS do NOT justify the MEANS. No matter how many "criminals" you catch.