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re: What is your take on the use of Flock Cameras?
Posted on 8/6/26 at 5:26 pm to America250
Posted on 8/6/26 at 5:26 pm to America250
It’s the government once again giving itself permission to violate the Constitution. People are resisting it a little, but not enough.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:33 pm to Red Eagle
Red Eagle. FYI, Chatrie v. United States, 146 S.Ct 2878 decided 6/29/26 is a much better case for your argument (you are welcome). BTW both Carpenter and Chatrie involved private data bases (Google CSLI and HL).
I suspect when a case makes it to SCOTUS they will rule that Law Enforcement will need a search warrant to obtain the Flock info in the absence of exigent circumstances.
. Don't get mad because I fact checked your your pseudo legal argument and found it wanting
I suspect when a case makes it to SCOTUS they will rule that Law Enforcement will need a search warrant to obtain the Flock info in the absence of exigent circumstances.
. Don't get mad because I fact checked your your pseudo legal argument and found it wanting
Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:44 pm to War Eagle 777
quote:there was no legal argument. It was me presenting what a quick internet search provided and you trying your hardest to justify government surveillance using 3rd parties.
Don't get mad because I fact checked your your pseudo legal argument and found it wanting
Not mad. Just emphatically against giving up my privacy so you can feel safe that Big Brother is watching
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:06 pm to TimeOutdoors
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It is a great way to engineer out crime.
Imagine hating the constitution this much and then claiming to be conservative.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:27 pm to America250
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Mine is:
These cameras are an unwarranted invasion of privacy. Since its a private company doing the surveillance, it allows law enforcement to access the data WITHOUT probable cause for a search warrant.
It's being abused by law enforcement. There is no reason for vehicle make and models, license plate readings, registration info, etc. of law abiding citizens that havent broke any laws, to be entered into a private database without probable cause. It's illegal surveillance.
The 4th amendment is just as important as the 1st and 2nd.
There is no invasion of privacy. Every state requires you to display your license plate prominantly. It might be worth your time to familiarize yourself with what it can and can't do.
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This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:30 pm to BigoBoys
quote:bullshite '
There is no invasion of privacy.
eta: the pigs are out in force trying to defend their flock cameras.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:33 pm to BigoBoys
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There is no invasion of privacy. Every state requires you to display your license plate prominantly. It might be worth your time to familiarize yourself with it can and can't do.
Now let's talk about Flock Freeform, and how you can use ALPR's to find people without a license plate based on clothing, appearance, bumper stickers, all to make a heat map of your past movements.
I'd love to hear how Jones and Chatrie say this form of warrantless surveillance is illegal without a warrant, but somehow you don't need one for Flock Cameras.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:37 pm to BigoBoys
Taking a picture in public is perfectly legal. That’s what these LPRs do.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:46 pm to Kramer26
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Taking a picture in public is perfectly legal. That’s what these LPRs do.
You'd think it'd be a lot harder for random LEO to stalk all of their exes if that's all it did, across multiple jurisdictions and departments.
Can we talk about the drones and signal trace? Or the heat maps?
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:48 pm to Red Eagle
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It was me presenting what a quick internet search provided and you trying your hardest to justify government surveillance using 3rd parties.
Never trust the internet on legal matters, you end up looking bad every time
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:51 pm to Red Eagle
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It was me presenting what a quick internet search provided and you trying your hardest to justify government surveillance using 3rd parties.
Never rely on the internet when arguing legal points.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:52 pm to War Eagle 777
This is just the latest whinefest by ignorant people who think there is privacy in public. This flock stuff will pass soon and they’ll be on to their next idiotic take. Just wait until they discover google earth or realize we have satellites taking pictures of their backyard.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:54 pm to RunningJacket
Or drones with cameras right above their heads
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:55 pm to BigoBoys
A DMV database IS NOT the same as a database created and maintained by a private company allowing anyone access to your personal data without going before a judge for any warrant or probable cause.
Just wait til they start reading the new Louisiana DMV QR code stickers with all your personal data, and storing on their servers. How long before your info is hacked and your safety and personal data is out there for every criminal to see.
Where you live, schools your kids go to, etc.
Just wait til they start reading the new Louisiana DMV QR code stickers with all your personal data, and storing on their servers. How long before your info is hacked and your safety and personal data is out there for every criminal to see.
Where you live, schools your kids go to, etc.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:58 pm to America250
You can find all that out with simple google searches. You can’t un invent data.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:59 pm to America250
Anti-American and a severe government overreach.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:11 pm to War Eagle 777
quote:compared to you, who defends Flock cameras? You make yourself look bad, no internet search required
Never trust the internet on legal matters, you end up looking bad every time
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:24 pm to Red Eagle
BTW your cell phone sends a signal to a cell site every 2 minutes. It does so whether your phone is in a public area or in a private residence. The location of every tower you ping is recorded by your carrier. It is called CSLI and can be obtained with a search warrant.
Also for you folks who use Google Location History, that gives your precise location (not just tower) and is also kept by Google. It can be obtained with a search warrant.
Also for you folks who use Google Location History, that gives your precise location (not just tower) and is also kept by Google. It can be obtained with a search warrant.
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:26 pm to War Eagle 777
Interesting. It’s pretty creepy, but I have no reason to worry.

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