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re: What is your take on the use of Flock Cameras?

Posted on 8/6/26 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14696 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 5:26 pm to
It’s the government once again giving itself permission to violate the Constitution. People are resisting it a little, but not enough.
Posted by War Eagle 777
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
508 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:33 pm to
Red Eagle. FYI, Chatrie v. United States, 146 S.Ct 2878 decided 6/29/26 is a much better case for your argument (you are welcome). BTW both Carpenter and Chatrie involved private data bases (Google CSLI and HL).

I suspect when a case makes it to SCOTUS they will rule that Law Enforcement will need a search warrant to obtain the Flock info in the absence of exigent circumstances.

. Don't get mad because I fact checked your your pseudo legal argument and found it wanting
Posted by Red Eagle
Member since Aug 2026
137 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:44 pm to
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Don't get mad because I fact checked your your pseudo legal argument and found it wanting
there was no legal argument. It was me presenting what a quick internet search provided and you trying your hardest to justify government surveillance using 3rd parties.

Not mad. Just emphatically against giving up my privacy so you can feel safe that Big Brother is watching
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:06 pm to
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It is a great way to engineer out crime.




Imagine hating the constitution this much and then claiming to be conservative.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
29068 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:18 pm to
I prefer the seagulls
Posted by BigoBoys
Arizona
Member since Aug 2019
745 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Mine is:

These cameras are an unwarranted invasion of privacy. Since its a private company doing the surveillance, it allows law enforcement to access the data WITHOUT probable cause for a search warrant.

It's being abused by law enforcement. There is no reason for vehicle make and models, license plate readings, registration info, etc. of law abiding citizens that havent broke any laws, to be entered into a private database without probable cause. It's illegal surveillance.

The 4th amendment is just as important as the 1st and 2nd.


There is no invasion of privacy. Every state requires you to display your license plate prominantly. It might be worth your time to familiarize yourself with what it can and can't do.


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This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Red Eagle
Member since Aug 2026
137 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:30 pm to
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There is no invasion of privacy.
bullshite '


eta: the pigs are out in force trying to defend their flock cameras.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 7:32 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:33 pm to
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There is no invasion of privacy. Every state requires you to display your license plate prominantly. It might be worth your time to familiarize yourself with it can and can't do.


Now let's talk about Flock Freeform, and how you can use ALPR's to find people without a license plate based on clothing, appearance, bumper stickers, all to make a heat map of your past movements.

I'd love to hear how Jones and Chatrie say this form of warrantless surveillance is illegal without a warrant, but somehow you don't need one for Flock Cameras.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6532 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:37 pm to
Taking a picture in public is perfectly legal. That’s what these LPRs do.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:46 pm to
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Taking a picture in public is perfectly legal. That’s what these LPRs do.


You'd think it'd be a lot harder for random LEO to stalk all of their exes if that's all it did, across multiple jurisdictions and departments.

Can we talk about the drones and signal trace? Or the heat maps?
Posted by War Eagle 777
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
508 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

It was me presenting what a quick internet search provided and you trying your hardest to justify government surveillance using 3rd parties.


Never trust the internet on legal matters, you end up looking bad every time
Posted by War Eagle 777
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
508 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

It was me presenting what a quick internet search provided and you trying your hardest to justify government surveillance using 3rd parties.


Never rely on the internet when arguing legal points.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
1130 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:52 pm to
This is just the latest whinefest by ignorant people who think there is privacy in public. This flock stuff will pass soon and they’ll be on to their next idiotic take. Just wait until they discover google earth or realize we have satellites taking pictures of their backyard.
Posted by War Eagle 777
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
508 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:54 pm to
Or drones with cameras right above their heads
Posted by America250
Member since Jun 2026
374 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:55 pm to
A DMV database IS NOT the same as a database created and maintained by a private company allowing anyone access to your personal data without going before a judge for any warrant or probable cause.

Just wait til they start reading the new Louisiana DMV QR code stickers with all your personal data, and storing on their servers. How long before your info is hacked and your safety and personal data is out there for every criminal to see.

Where you live, schools your kids go to, etc.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
1130 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:58 pm to
You can find all that out with simple google searches. You can’t un invent data.
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
456 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:59 pm to
Anti-American and a severe government overreach.
Posted by Red Eagle
Member since Aug 2026
137 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:11 pm to
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Never trust the internet on legal matters, you end up looking bad every time
compared to you, who defends Flock cameras? You make yourself look bad, no internet search required
Posted by War Eagle 777
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
508 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:24 pm to
BTW your cell phone sends a signal to a cell site every 2 minutes. It does so whether your phone is in a public area or in a private residence. The location of every tower you ping is recorded by your carrier. It is called CSLI and can be obtained with a search warrant.

Also for you folks who use Google Location History, that gives your precise location (not just tower) and is also kept by Google. It can be obtained with a search warrant.

Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69774 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:26 pm to
Interesting. It’s pretty creepy, but I have no reason to worry.
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