re: What is your take on the use of Flock Cameras?

Violation of the 4th amendment.

Addiitionally it's a signal that the people in government no longer feel as though they are serving the people, but rather the people are their tax servants to control.

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And as you mentioned - NEED A WARRANT to get the information. It's not even close to being the same thing.

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So are you fine with Flock if a search warrant was required?

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So are you fine with Flock if a search warrant was required?

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Zero flock cameras. Keep cutting them down

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So are you fine with Flock is a search warrant was required?

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A search warrant would be required on every citizen for them to function legally. Government can't collect the data on people without a valid reason to start with, that is a violation of the 4th amendment.

What you cited were private companies who collect the data. The 4th amendment applies to government, not companies. And your examples were all opt-in. And when the government wants access to that data, they need a search warrant to do so, as required by the 4th.

Morally, everyone should be against them regardless of the law. Giving anyone/thing that kind of power over people will never end with good results. When the intentions are anything but pure to start with, then it's imperative that people resist.

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Every law abiding citizen shouldn’t suffer mass surveillance as a by-product of catching bad guys.

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As a law abiding citizen it doesnt matter to me. I'd rather police know Im driving to the grocery store and be able to catch criminals than have "privacy" outside of my home. I can see how that would bother people that regularly break the law, though.

“Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.”

Between Two Ages- America's Role in the Technetronic Era
Zbigniew Brzezinksi

from 1970

"Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modem techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control. Under such circumstances, the scientific and technological momentum of the country would not be reversed but would actually feed on the situation it exploits.
Relying on scientific growth to produce the means for dealing with social ills, it would tap the nation's intellectual talent for broad target planning and exploit the existence of doctrinaire groups by using them as social barometers and as sources of novel ideas. Persisting social crisis, the emergence of a charismatic personality, and the exploitation of mass media to obtain public confidence would be the steppingstones in the piecemeal transformation of the United States into a highly controlled society/ In different ways, both the doctrinarian and the conservative might find the temptations inherent in the new techniques of social control too difficult to resist. The inclination of the doctrinaire left to legitimize means by ends could lead them to justify more social control on the ground that it serves progress. The conservatives, preoccupied with public order and fascinated by modem gadgetry, would be tempted to use the new techniques as a response to unrest, since they would fail to recognize that social control is not the only way to deal with rapid social change."