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re: Welfare Facts - Putting things in perspective - Sorry if it pisses you off...
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:13 pm to Jax-Tiger
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:13 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Why are you in favor of adding as many people to the welfare rolls as possible?
I'm in favor of fixing broken government programs - not eliminating them completely.
I believe a mentally challenged child shouldn't die alone living in a trash can like what happens in nations without programs like this.
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:21 pm to RD Dawg
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They have socialized medicine in Canada.
They also have free vocational training for everyone. If you are poor and want a good job as a mechanic or working in the oil fields, training is available free of charge.
In fact, you can opt out of college prep high schools at grade 10 and start training at vocational schools which have direct lines to mentorship programs at graduation.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:24 pm to RD Dawg
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What exactly is your definition of welfare?
I have attached a chart (twice, on pages 1 and 3) that breaks down the spending by category and tells you how much we spent on each category for the last 5 years. Just scroll up on this page.
No socialized medicine is not welfare. Otherwise, the number for Canada would be 100%, eh?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:24 pm to WaltWhite504
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I'm in favor of fixing broken government programs -
So what's broken about it and how would you fix it?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:31 pm to Jax-Tiger
have kids and on welfare? you get snipped.
On welfare while not looking for employment? you cant vote.
On welfare while not looking for employment? you cant vote.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:32 pm to Jake88
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Doesn't paint the proper picture of how much it really is. Try this....
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The average poor family with children already receives $65,200 in cash, food, housing, medical care, and educational support from the taxpayer each year
This reminds me of a black guy from Chicago saying education should be free...
Brother, what the frick do you think public education is? Yall just dont use it to your advantage.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:37 pm to WaltWhite504
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I'm in favor of fixing broken government programs - not eliminating them completely.
Who has suggested getting rid of anything? Certainly not me. I suggested that we cut our welfare expenditures in half. Welfare should be need based, not a lifestyle.
Would you believe that not everyone on disability is disabled? Kind of like not everyone who files for asylum is a refugee.
Canada has 2% on welfare, the US has 20%. Why? Our system is abused and the powers that be approve. The only way it can get reform is for people to raise their voices and make a big deal about it. People like you will raise your voices to keep the abuses in place, though. Every time someone suggests reform, the leftists cry that it's racist, unfair, greedy, etc... Other countries do it, why can't we?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:47 pm to grich31
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loose a huge block of rural white voters
Doesn't matter.
My criteria is not based on race, sex, color, creed, gender, or national origin.
It's completely neutral of all of those.
My criteria solely targets a conflict of interest.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:48 pm to Jax-Tiger
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socialized medicine is not welfare
It isn't?
What do you consider Medicaid and Medicare?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:50 pm to TrueTiger
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Their are 65M people on Welfare - About 21.6 million households
And none of them should be allowed to vote.
Agree 100% bc they one day will vote themselves more money as we have to pay more.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:20 pm to WaltWhite504
quote:No, you didn't. But we do ticket those who are caught.
I watched 10 people run red lights on the way to work today
quote:Didn't say that, did I? We can scrutinize applications far more than we do. We can raise the bar for what truly is a disability. We could actually enforce penalties.
I guess since a few people don't follow the rules we should just get rid of all traffic lights and save some money
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:45 pm to Jax-Tiger
This is why our taxation scheme is a damn joke! As I posted in another thread, the homelessness hustle, the imagination hustle, the endless wars, the MIC, the money we give to organizations like NATO, charitable donations to impoverished countries, is all squandered away; corrupt politicians with insider information set up “non profits” and extort this money! They enrich themselves off the sweat of hard working Americans. It’s sickening to think about! And to your point, when wasteful spending on welfare, SSI, Medicare, are added in, there is no reason our tax burden should be HALF! I don’t mind contributing to society, I don’t mind lending a helping hand, but it’s totally out of control!
Posted on 6/18/24 at 3:52 pm to Indefatigable
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I'm all for getting people off the government, but I am not sure this is the path.
Sink or swim. Govt abused its power by stealing money from citizens to redistribute to certain citizens of its own choosing.
They’re should be grateful for having a lifetime of all their needs provided.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:03 pm to Tantal
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The difference between us and Canada is that they have very strict immigration laws and will only accept migration from people with education and skills to help their economy and contribute to government coffers. We throw the doors wide open to uneducated, unskilled 3rd World shitbirds who are net drains on the system the minute that they arrive.
While true, most of our worthless, non working while able, shitbirds are homegrown.
The number of people getting some form of welfare in my part of rural WI is very high. And they didn't swim the Rio Grande.
Lots of single white mommas with multiple baby daddies.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:06 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Does this count all the people getting disability for each child with depression, ADHD, etc?
From what I hear every child of a single momma has ADHD.
*Not kidding.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:13 pm to WaltWhite504
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They also have free vocational training for everyone.
So does the United States. Free public school, many with vocation training, and free or extremely cheap/subsidized vocational tech schools.
In Louisiana, Tops covers vo tech. Pell Grants also pay for them. So not sure what point you are trying to make.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:14 pm to Jax-Tiger
quote:Wow! I did not realize that.
The federal government spent $1.15T on welfare last year - or 1/3 more than our entire military budget
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:17 pm to Jax-Tiger
What pisses me off more is the money we spend all over the planet on stupid shite that could be spent on our people. I don’t want to spend taxpayer money on bailing out student loans anymore than I want to spend it on Ukrainians. But if I have to pick, I choose the student loans every fricking time.
How many jobs could we have created and houses could we have built for our people over the last 20 years with the 7 trillion we spent in Afghanistan? But it all went to MIC f@ggots. Be a lot less blood and tears as well.
But I’m just a knuckle dragging populist according to this board.
How many jobs could we have created and houses could we have built for our people over the last 20 years with the 7 trillion we spent in Afghanistan? But it all went to MIC f@ggots. Be a lot less blood and tears as well.
But I’m just a knuckle dragging populist according to this board.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 4:41 pm to Jax-Tiger
That chart shows there are 13 welfare programs.
Medicaid spending > than the other 12 programs combined.
Medicaid spending > than the other 12 programs combined.
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