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Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:00 am to GumboPot
The midterms have nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with what the GOP Congress do between now and then
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:00 am to GumboPot
quote:I said what I meant. If our bases are attacked, we defend ourselves. If Iran somehow regains military capability (not likely given how the IDF is kicking their arse and how we'll be monitoring them constantly), then we destroy it from afar. We're offering peace. If they want to expend their limited resources to attack, that's on them.
So you're saying retaliate on the down low? I can see that working, maybe.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:01 am to The Egg
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i don't see how it is an end to any conflict unless trump and others are expecting Iran to just lie down and capitulate for some reason that nobody knows about.
Well they have done symbolic-only responses before, which wouldn't lead to escalation on our end.
This situation seems different. I mean full on war from Israel and us bombing Iran with a bomb never used before in human history leads me to think the difference is real.
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if we're being honest, they have no reason to. American public has let it be known that it will not stomach another middle east conflict where we're sending troops into a meat grinder with no discernible objective in the end.
We say this now, but look at how the neocons came back in such large numbers on here. They have been saying that talking point too and it's all bullshite. Hell, we're even getting copy-paste neocon bullshite talking about all the historical Iranian aggression, which is completely irrelevant to the bombing Saturday (at least if we believe it was about the nukes).
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:02 am to GumboPot
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We had a good run baws. MAGA is very close to being dismantled
You then need to be more like me. I voted for Trump at least as many times as you. But I have a realistic view of the United States role in the world. We will do what we have to do.
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Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:02 am to RoyalWe
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We're offering peace.
It takes a special kind of delusion to see bombing a country as extending an olive branch. I doubt you’d see it the same way if our roles in this conflict were reversed.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
If someone like me will vote MAGA out of office if they initiate a ground war then they are done. It's not going to happen.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:03 am to SDVTiger
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The TDS IDS panicans are getting annoying
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:04 am to sorantable
quote:Ever see a UFC fight go wrong with someone on the ground? Yeah, that's Iran.
It takes a special kind of delusion to see bombing a country as extending an olive branch. I doubt you’d see it the same way if our roles in this conflict were reversed.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:04 am to JoylessMurderball
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There is no chance that we are putting boots on the ground.
NO chance? There is no response by Iran that wouldn't get boots on the ground? Another 911?
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:05 am to GumboPot
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MAGA is very close to being dismantled.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:06 am to Clames
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You baws keep shitting your pants like you have stock in Fruit of the Loom.
It only takes 5% to swing elections.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:07 am to GumboPot
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It only takes 5% to swing elections.
Exactly. There's a false bravado about the 24 election. Things are still VERY CLOSE.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
End of ? New ? This is the only two considerations you got? Could it possibly be a continuation of 2 very different views of how governments looks at their citizens? One is a bit more restrictive I think. One is openly expressing the end of other people and supports terrorism.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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As I told stout earlier, the people spiking the football see Saturday's bombing as the end of a conflict, when others see it as the beginning of a new conflict.
Still not a new conflict.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:13 am to burke985
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Goddamn conservatives are weak, makes sense now why the left was able to so easily do whatever they wanted.
Absolutely agree.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:14 am to GumboPot
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We have midterms.
We also have the Dims still not fully realizing that their lapdog media has achieved negative credibility
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:15 am to theballguy
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Trump is not up for re-election.
Agree, as long as the nominee doesn’t have any strong ties to this administration, they may have a chance.
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Why don't you see if judge mathis needs help putting on his robe.
SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/23/25 at 10:16 am to GumboPot
The real question is JD. His TV skills are off the charts but is he truly America First or just a good reader of the wind? I'm hopeful but it's an open question.
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