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re: US individuals expressing a high degree of trust in MDs plummets from 71.5% to 40.1%
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:32 am to GumboPot
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:32 am to GumboPot
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Stop being drones to Big Pharma and reclaim your professional autonomy, doctors. Be a human doctor. Not the future AI version of what Big Pharma wants you to become.
This would require new med schools and a cessation of the belief that holistic doctors are quacks. Big pharma under the Rockefellers created the pharma-based health system and the med schools that churn out obedient drones.
We need to destroy the current med school system and replace it with something healthy.
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:38 am to NC_Tigah
quote:I am not arguing that aspect.
You're downplaying it, but in many instances the healthsystem/hospital bases PCP bonusing on such BS.
I am contesting the fact that his doctor supposedly told him that he is firing him as a patient because he won’t make as much money.
I don’t believe he told him that. Sorry.
That may have been the doctor’s motivation, but I highly doubt he said that to his face.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:41 am to NC_Tigah
Bingo. Most physicians are employed and they have to practice in accordance with their employers directives or they get fired. COVID proved that in a dramatic way. There are still a few independent practices left where you will find physicians who put the care of their patients first.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:45 am to TenWheelsForJesus
quote:I am going state something that will have many of you object and get upset.
We need to destroy the current med school system and replace it with something healthy.
Do you know who is at fault for the majority of this issue?
The public. All of you.
People view medicine like it is a mechanics shop. Come on in and get an oil change (medicine) and you’ll be good as new.
No. People are fricking unhealthy, their choices lead to these problems.
Poor eating habits
Lack of exercise
Smoking
Drinking
Reckless behaviors
And the list goes on.
People want the medical field to fix all of their problems without taking any responsibility for their own actions and activities.
The problems with American health and medicine is 90% public activities and choices and 10% medical response.
“But you are just saying that because you are in the medical field and survive off of this!”
Sure, and if you guys would all take care of yourselves to where we only needed medical care for emergencies and preventative situations, 90% of the issues with the medical field wouldn’t exist.
Hell, probably 50% of the medical field wouldn’t exist at all.
That is why I deal in pediatrics. They are almost never at fault for their issues. They caught a cold or an infection. They fell of their bikes or someone else hurt them.
They aren’t old enough to understand their actions and situations.
They are innocent.
/rant over
It is incredibly frustrating.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:47 am to cajunangelle
quote:FYI, there's actually a significant difference in ruptured ulcer and a ruptured appy.
My fam member had a ruptured ulcer. Robotic surgery was used. It turned out great.
A ruptured appy leaks all kinds of nasty shite (literally
) into your peritoneum. The peritoneum is a sterile area. An infection there is very serious (peritonitis). So with a ruptured appendix, the area needs to be thoroughly washed out at the time of surgery. Otherwise, you'd end up as one really sick girl. With peptic ulcer rupture that is far less the case. Robotics aren't needed for appendectomy. Laparoscopy (surgeons operating through tiny incisions, similar to robotics) is used routinely. Laparoscopy is a reasonable approach even with ruptured appendix as long as the surgeon is well experienced with it. If not, an open approach is also reasonable and probably safer in terms of the wash out.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 11:54 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:21 pm to Ace Midnight
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Trust is hard to earn and easy to squander.
Bingo. Even with Adam Carolla right next to him spitting truth, Dr Drew still bought fully in to every Fauci narrative. If he did that, just think how easy it is for the everyday average doc is to control with false narratives.
Docs were violating the most basic codes of ethics to pimp out the vaccine
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:41 pm to Scruffy
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I am going state something that will have many of you object and get upset.
If anybody is upset about this
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:53 pm to NC_Tigah
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, increases in health care costs borne by patients, and primary care shortages that create barriers to access and reduce the chance that a patient will develop a stable, long-term relationship with a clinician.
Yeaahhhh that isn't it.
My personal belief, call me crazy if you like, is that the lack or trust is because they have proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Stop lying to us. Stop denying us medications that work but make you less money. And MY number one concern, how about you freaking look into the situation and become more knowledgeable than me for a change.
Doctors suck. If you found a good one keep'em!
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:20 pm to NC_Tigah
It's not even about trust it's about they just repeat the same shite from corrupt organizations.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:34 pm to Scruffy
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The public. All of you.
Ok granted, your points are really not up for debate. It is appalling the way the general public disregards their health.
But even though the patients suck for the most part, that in no way gives the doctors a pass for their actions.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:46 pm to omegaman66
quote:I don’t disagree, the medical system is broken terribly, physicians should not get a pass on their actions, but this all comes down to the absolutely unhealthy nature of our populace and an improper view of what medicine actually is.
But even though the patients suck for the most part, that in no way gives the doctors a pass for their actions.
Preventative medicine is key, it always has been.
It is almost completely disregarded.
A common complaint we get in the ER is that we did nothing because we didn’t send someone home with a medicine they didn’t need or we didn’t run a test was wasn’t warranted.
Hell, the most common discussion I have with families is that you don’t need a head CT after every time their child bumps their head, with them usually becoming agitated and practically demanding it, even after I explain the radiation/future cancer risk.
Primary care physicians lose patients frequently if they even mention weigh loss as being needed.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:49 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Stop being drones to Big Pharma
And work to get rid of health insurance which has destroyed the doctor patient relationship.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:51 pm to winkchance
quote:Do not even get me started on that.
And work to get rid of health insurance which has destroyed the doctor patient relationship.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 2:02 pm to Scruffy
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The public. All of you.
I have to push back a little bit. The economic conditions we are subjected to do not leave much time for leisure or exercise for the typical person. Our food supply is poisoned thanks to lobbyists, and between commuting and the stupid norm of people physically being in an office for 8+ hours a day - there isn't a lot of time for grocery shopping and cooking.
There is plenty of blame to around that can be spread across many societal factors in addition to individuals.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 2:14 pm to Scruffy
quote:That is an issue separate from loss of trust in the doctor patient relationship. Physicians and the medical community own the latter 100%.
I am going state something that will have many of you object and get upset.
Do you know who is at fault for the majority of this issue?
The public. All of you.
When duplicitous, highly visible doctors like Fauci, Birx, or Catherine O’Neal (in Baton Rouge) made the easily disprovable, antiscience assertions they did during Covid, there was going to be a backlash. It was predictable. I said so early on here.
Sadly, MDs who knew many Covidian proclamations had little medical and/or scientific basis, nonetheless cowed away from speaking out. Pharmacists refused to fill ivermectin prescriptions in arguably illegal actions. Yet, MDs were largely silent about that too. It is the kind of breach which even staunchly ivermectin-doubting MDs should have shutdown. But they didn't.
I never dreamed, in my lifetime, solid trust of US MDs would or could drop to 40%. It's catastrophic, and may not be recoverable.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 2:15 pm to GumboPot
No president will ever “earn” your respect unless they fulfill all of your obligations which change with the wind so I doubt he will lose any sleep over your defection
Posted on 7/11/25 at 2:18 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 7/11/25 at 2:18 pm to 4cubbies
quote:What kind of recess and physical activities go on in elementary school nowadays?
There is plenty of blame to around that can be spread across many societal factors
Posted on 7/11/25 at 2:27 pm to BuzzSaw 12
No incentives.
“It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it."
-Upton Sinclair
“It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it."
-Upton Sinclair
Posted on 7/11/25 at 2:53 pm to NC_Tigah
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US individuals expressing a high degree of trust in MDs plummets from 71.5% to 40.1%
I absolutely agree. My two children, a 2nd yr Resident MD and practicing surgical RN, and I all agree that the current medical system is only meant to "get you in and medicated and get you out." Little to no effort is spent on chronic illness or condition cures by the treatment team.
My most recent case in point was when I went to a cardiologist for my high BP. The first one I went to had me so f'd up that I changed to another one who reversed course and got me straightened out on my meds in one visit...
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