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re: US Chinese Virus Tracker - 466,299 Cases, 16,686 Deaths, 26,104 Recovered (4/10/2020)

Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:36 pm to
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22 million people had H1N1 and we didn't hear shite about it till it was over.




H1N1 had a mortality rate of ~.01%-.08% and an R0 of ~1.5.

COVID-19 has an R0 of around 2 and the global mortality rate had been 3.4% for almost the last month, it's now 3.6% (thanks, Italy). At the very least COVID-19 is more contagious than H1N1, the jury is still out on the mortality rate though (it may end up coming down to which countries are best set to deal with pneumonia and double-pneumonia).

tl;dr - ridiculous comparisons are ridiculous.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18621 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:40 pm to
So basically 16 deaths once you set aside the 12 that died due to negligence in that nursing home?

That's not as bad as I thought it would be.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:57 pm to
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Bigfoot may exist. That's the difference between speculation and observed data.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95643 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 4:03 pm to
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22 million people had H1N1 and we didn't hear shite about it till it was over.



In 2009? That was ~60 million (~30k deaths, too).
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 4:45 pm to
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So basically 16 deaths once you set aside the 12 that died due to negligence in that nursing home?

That's not as bad as I thought it would be.


32 deaths. This doesn't get graded on a curve. There are plenty of nursing homes, assisted living facilites, etc around the country.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:30 pm to
All restaurants and bars in Italy to close.
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3769 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:55 pm to
It it just me or does the OP purposely not update the recoveries?
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:58 pm to
Medical personnel at Vandy just tested positive. All in person classes shut down at Vanderbilt rest of the semester
Posted by Slinger16
Not Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
21903 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 5:58 pm to
Each recovery deals a small blow to his hysterical narrative.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:00 pm to
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A nice move down in the CFR this PM


It was COMPLETELY predictable AND, will continue.

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I'd like to see where it settles in when we have ~ 10,000 cases. That's a solid n.
Not really

quote:

The CDC continues to limit testing. As well as no longer releasing data. From the CDC website:
Um, I mean...….this just in. The world exists outside our borders. We have the information we need to not be in a dead panic. But, filth like you WANT a panic.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27185 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:01 pm to

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No one cares


I disagree. I am no one and I don't care.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:02 pm to
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It it just me or does the OP purposely not update the recoveries?


I’m not sure we have a good handle on what recovery looks like.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76495 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:06 pm to
Cause they don't report or talk about it?

Not a popular narrative right now it seems.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS
Member since Mar 2004
73196 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:08 pm to
1135 people

Let’s shut down the country

I wouldn’t give a frick if it was 1135 people in my county
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 6:10 pm to
Notice how the cases and deaths grow, but boatshoes “recovered” number has been stuck at 8 for over a week?
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13303 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:08 pm to
You’re a moron
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 7:09 pm to
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You’re a moron



Are you saying that number has not been 8 for a fricking week?

because it has been 8 for a week
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:08 pm to
It has been. Today it is up to 12.
Posted by dram
Felicianas
Member since Sep 2010
100 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:12 pm to
Dead is Dead
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 8:54 pm to
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Covid-19 would need to prove 10-fold more lethal than H1N1 to justify the coverage it has received.



Well good thing it has been

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during the first year of the 2009-2010 H1N1 pandemic, an international research group said on Friday, but the death rate was just 0.02 percent.

LINK


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At a congressional hearing this afternoon, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, suggested that COVID-19 is is considerably more dangerous than run-of-the-mill flu. He observed, "The flu has a mortality rate of 0.1 percent. This has a mortality rate of 10 times that. That's the reason I want to emphasize we have to stay ahead of the game in preventing this."


meaning 1% (or 50 times more lethal than H1N1)

LINK

I mean even the seasonal flu is 0.1% (5x more lethal than H1N1)

H1N1 just isn't a good comparison to COVID 19. It had an estimated R0 of about 1.5 (COVID 19 is between 2 and 2.5) and has a much lower mortality rate.

Is it being overhyped? Yes

Is it going to be worse than H1N1? Yes

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