re: Trump set to lift US sanctions on Iran, free billions and unlock uranium enrichment

How about we wait to see the actual deal before throwing up on ourselves and panicking

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The deal calls for Iran to halt all uranium enrichment for 12 to 15 years with automatic extensions if Tehran violates the terms, according to Axios.

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So it’s ok for Iran to nuke us just after Trump is dead?

Cucks on this board will still defend him.


Typical TACO

I'd be totally and completely shocked if this is even partly true.

Not so much due to what they're saying, but WHEN they're saying it.

I expect not much new to come out at all before Trump visits China in a week or so.

It's going to be a similar deal like Obama's or close to it.

Please read the entire article.

Halfway through the article it changes from its' title.

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They cover American politics better than American journos.

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They're just parroting what they got from an Axios article

And now the Iranians are saying it's fake news

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If they're actually agreeing to halting the pursuit of a nuclear weapon, why wouldn't we agree to all of that?

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Why not leave some cash on the tarmac while we're at it?

Listen to yourselves. If this turns out to be even close to true, how many did we kill and how much debt did we rack up for the same bullshite "deal" we've had with Iran for decades?

Trump was a complete fool to wade into this. I know he realizes that now. It's just a matter of putting a relatively acceptable face on it at this point.

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The right has been screaming “Obama gave them a pallet load of cash” blah blah blah


And now if Trump does it, you guys will say it’s ok. Nothing to see here

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You are leaving out the crucial difference: The US has been trying to stop Iran’s nuclear ambitions. This deal does that; Obama’s did not.

The Daily Mail headline is doing Daily Mail things. What’s actually being discussed is phased sanctions relief and the release of frozen assets as part of a negotiated framework after months of escalation and brinkmanship.

The real question isn’t whether sanctions relief is happening. It’s this: after years of “maximum pressure,” military escalation, shipping disruptions, proxy attacks, strikes, and constant rhetoric about how the Obama deal was catastrophic weakness, how much better is the position we’re now negotiating from?

Because if the end result is still:

-Iran keeps the regime,
-Iran keeps most of its scientific and nuclear knowledge,
-Iran gets sanctions relief,
-the Strait of Hormuz remains a permanent leverage point,
-and the US eventually returns to some version of monitored containment,

then people are going to reasonably ask what exactly all the additional cost bought us.

And those costs were not theoretical.

We paid in:

-global oil and shipping disruption,
-higher insurance and transport costs,
=military expenditure,
-instability in energy markets,
-diplomatic credibility,
-and the continued demonstration to allies and adversaries alike that American policy can completely reverse every 4-8 years depending on who wins an election.

That last point matters more than people here will admit. If every administration tears up the previous framework and starts over from zero, then every adversary on earth learns the same lesson: wait us out.

And strategically, Iran still retains the same core leverage it always had: geography. The Strait of Hormuz remains one of the most economically sensitive chokepoints on earth. In some ways, that leverage is even more dangerous than nuclear weapons because Iran can threaten massive global economic disruption through shipping interference without triggering the kind of overwhelming retaliatory annihilation an actual nuclear strike would invite. They don’t need to win a war or launch nukes to shake the global economy. They just need markets to believe instability in the straits is possible and oil and shipping prices react almost immediately.

So if after all the chest-thumping, sanctions, assassinations, threats, naval escalation, market disruption, and years of telling the country Obama was a weak idiot who got played, Trump ends up functionally circling back to a deal involving sanctions relief and frozen assets anyway, then the obvious question becomes: what exactly was accomplished besides burning credibility, money, and stability to arrive at a slightly modified version of the same general strategy?

Because arriving at roughly the same destination after setting half the map on fire is not a grand strategy. And if the end result was always eventual negotiation, then a lot of this starts looking like an enormously expensive detour.