re: This Algerian boxer stuff is what’s wrong with social media, she’s always been a woman

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If you have XY you are not a woman.

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I thought it was

Penis = man
Vagina = woman


Are you saying you disagree with that?

XY is a dude

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The funny thing about this is

Libs have been saying gender identity is complicated

The right has said God made it very easy - if on day one you have a vagina you are a woman, born with a penis you are a man. End of discussion.

Imane Khelif was born - day one - with a vagina and no penis

Now the right is saying - it's more complicated than that. You have to do genetic testing and count chromosomes under a microscope.

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Why is it okay for libs like you to be nuanced and not conservatives?

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I would bet many of the great female athletes of all time have higher levels of testosterone.

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You’d probably be wrong.

This person had enough testosterone in her system that it looked like severe PED use. Why is she in the ring with normal women???

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Discussing whether or not an intersex individual should be allowed to compete as a woman

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Only women should compete as women.

What about people like this man?

He likely had just enough penis to get male on his birth certificate. But would lack the amount of testosterone necessary to qualify if tested.

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What about people like this man? He likely had just enough penis to get male on his birth certificate. But would lack the amount of testosterone necessary to qualify if tested

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Gay men may not be men but they certainly aren’t women.

So does this person have XXY?

Different conversation that the IOC should mention if that’s the case.

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Why is it okay for libs like you to be nuanced and not conservatives?

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I honestly don't know the answer to this one.

There are genetic adv/disadvantages in the Olympics. Example:




But it is also not fair that other women have to compete against someone who could kill them.

All i'm saying is most things are extremely complicated and the solution is never found at the polar ends of two extremes which is how most things are framed in bipartisan politics.

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But see what I guess you don’t know is a lot of women are born with some XY chromosomes, it’s not that uncommon.

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Let me splain somethin to ya:
A man’s sperm is going to either have an X or a Y on the 23rd chromosome. That’s going to mate up with the X from the mother’s egg. So the result will be XX or XY on the fertilized egg.

There are very rare conditions where the sperm or the egg will have a fricked up 23rd chromosome and the resultant fertilized egg may end up with X or XXX or XXXX or XYY or XXY or something screwy. That person will be infertile and will likely have all kinds of physical and mental problems.

But it all boils down to what was in that fertilized egg. If the fertilized egg was XX, then all the cells in that persons body will have XX on the 23rd chromosome pair. If the fertilized egg starts with XY, then that person is a biological male (despite possibly having a pussy due to fetal development issues), and all the cells in that persons body will have XY on the 23rd chromosome pair.

Your premise that a lot of women are born with some XY chromosomes is patently false.

The only exception - the only way a person can exist with some XX and some XY chromosomes is that person would have to be a chimera of a male and a female. It’s super rare and there’s only a couple documented cases in the world but it is possible that a male fertilized egg (XY) and a female fertilized egg (XX) that would have grown into fraternal twin fetuses, due to proximity to each other, begin to grow together and fuse during the zygote stage and grown into a single fetus. Symptoms of such a condition would be finding a person that has two different skin tones or different color eyes or hair or other deformities. It’s extremely rare.

If a person has some XY chromosomes, they likely have all XY chromosomes even if they have a pussy and no dick.