re: The right dying on this ICE agent hill is reminiscent of the Chauvin incident

She was ordered out of the vehicle.

After she refused and attempted to flee she was committing a felony.

That’s all before her attempt to flee included putting a federal agent in the path of her vehicle.

At least SFP is pretty good at his “reasonable contrarian” shtick. You need practice

You don’t appear to be too bright if you don’t see the implications of stopping this behavior. But carry on Walz.

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Don't be a mindless bootlicker

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How about you don’t be a mindless dumbass?

This guy was 100% correct. Chauvin does of an OD and there is a man in prison for manslaughter because of public out rage. That’s not justice, that’s mob rule and should not be allowed to happen.


He’ll, most of January 6 mailings and prosecutions were mob rule/ political warfare.

The right needs to make a stand on these issues before it’s too late.

You asking these questions is interesting. When she’s been doing it all day and they are trying to detain her it all breaks loose. In this country we can give opinions you may not like mine I might not like yours. If you were trying to be detained by police would you stomp the gas?

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Don't be a mindless bootlicker

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Here we go.


You are a bootlicker for not wanting your country invaded by illegals.



fricking clown.

She got what she wanted. She was there to provoke ICE and cause disruption.

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Since you are an expert, can you tell me when someone is in danger. If it is okay to shoot an unarmed person crawling trough a glass door, then I think it is okay to shoot someone that has accelerated a 4000 lb vehicle at me.

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I’m sure this question short circuited “Fat Sexy Commie’s” little pea brain.

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She was ordered out of the vehicle.

After she refused and attempted to flee she was committing a felony.

That’s all before her attempt to flee included putting a federal agent in the path of her vehicle.

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I'm not defending Good. I am curious about the training of the ICE agents. The agent who killed her didn't seek to detain her. Why did the arriving agents? Also, everything I can find says that DHS trains its agents NOT to step in front of a vehicle as a means of detention. Can you find something other than this?

Yes — under current Department of Homeland Security (DHS) use-of-force and tactical policies, officers and agents are generally supposed to avoid stepping in front of a vehicle or placing themselves in its path to try to stop it. DHS policies emphasize officer safety, public safety, and minimizing unnecessary risk, and placing oneself in front of a moving vehicle is explicitly discouraged. ?
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Here’s how the policy language and training guidance address this:
?? 1. DHS use-of-force doctrine
DHS’s use-of-force standards require that:
Force, including deadly force, must be objectively reasonable under the circumstances.
Deadly force cannot be used solely to stop a fleeing suspect or to prevent escape unless there is a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury. ?
Department of Homeland Security
?? 2. Tactical positioning around vehicles
Specific DHS guidance (e.g., Customs and Border Protection and related directives) states that officers/agents should:
Avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle, and
Not place their body in the path of a moving vehicle to block it. ?
U.S. Customs and Border Protection +1
The reasoning is both safety and tactical — physically blocking a vehicle exposes the officer to serious risk and limits available safe options if the vehicle moves unexpectedly.
?? 3. Deadly force and moving vehicles
DHS policy also incorporates strict guidance on shooting at vehicles:
Agents are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle unless the use of deadly force is otherwise justified under the policy (e.g., imminent threat to life).
Before using deadly force against a moving vehicle’s operator, the danger to others and the viability of less risky options must be considered. ?
Department of Homeland Security
?? Bottom line
Yes — it is contrary to DHS tactical and use-of-force policy for officers to place themselves in front of a vehicle in an attempt to stop it. The guidance encourages tactics that minimize risk and avoid putting officers directly in the path of a vehicle — and deadly force cannot be justified simply because a subject is trying to flee. ?

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Before using deadly force against a moving vehicle’s operator, the danger to others and the viability of less risky options must be considered.

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Sounds good but how is this deliberation supposed to occur in 1/4 of a second?