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re: The loony, conspiracy theory far right has given the Democrats an opening over Epstein

Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:11 am to
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:11 am to
quote:

it is either a trap or just plain incompetence from Trump not being able to read the room
Occam's razor
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4718 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:11 am to
Of course there is a plan. Everything has already been scripted, including seeding the media.

We just have to watch it play out,

The plan hopefully includes some kind of way to lessen the impact of AIPAC..

Oh, and by the way a zilllion dollars in debt.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:13 am to
Trump, Bondi, Patel and Bongino created this mess by the way they handled it.

They are the ones to blame for this mess. Total incompetence.

They ran their damn mouths about this for years. Over promised. And under delivered.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 8:20 am
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21748 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:13 am to
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it is either a trap or just plain incompetence from Trump not being able to read the room


I think Trump47 has bad actors in the room, same as Trump45 did.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29227 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:14 am to
Are you suggesting it’s our fault and voters?

Why the hell then was there then a photo op with loser “social media influencers” with binders suggesting the Epstein stuff was soon to be revealed?
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 8:16 am
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:15 am to
Sure thing chief lol you have done this to yourselves
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44288 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:15 am to
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The house democrats are in unison demanding the release of the files.


How is this a bad thing?
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:16 am to
They have had millions of useful idiots willing to go along and that number grows by the day
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29227 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:16 am to
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Because it’s a bullshite conspiracy theory.


Then what was the binder photo op about?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44288 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:18 am to
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plain incompetence from Trump not being able to read the room


quote:

Occam's razor


This is a terrible take.

Are you suggesting that Trump is ignorant of the circumstances revolving around Epstein.

To me, either Trump is playing multidimensional chess (having the Dems call for the release of the files), or he is guilty of crimes related to Epstein.

That is the gist of it.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157846 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:20 am to
So you also hate own goals.

Because that’s what is happening here.

Trump Team opened the door.

All the vile dems did is walk through that open door
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
26274 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:20 am to
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Because it’s a bullshite conspiracy theory. There’s no magic list of people

There's no magic list. There's no video of the rich and powerful, because they would never let themselves be videoed. It's like demanding proof that alien's didn't land at Area 51. The conspiracy nuts love fan fiction.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14577 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:21 am to
If it was ever going to help the democrats, the files would have been released when Biden was in office. They're just saying this now because they know it will never happen.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11363 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:22 am to
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This really boils down to whether or not you believe Epstein had any other clients besides Prince Andrew. If I'm loony to think that Andrew wasn't a one-off, then I guess I'm loony.


Or Trump is telling the truth and the democrats under Biden added a poison pill to the evidence. Do you really trust democrats enough to not alter evidence?

We have 2 sides. Trump saying the evidence was altered by dems. And dems demanding the files be released immediately. Put those 2 together and the answer should be easy.

Personally, I trust Trump more than the democrats, but you do you.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37806 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:23 am to
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Give it a few weeks - it feels like Trump is baiting them.


Why would he need to bait them?


Just release them and arrest them
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:23 am to
Pandering to the masses and you fell for it and now you are facilitating the demise of MAGA, you are just too dumb to see it
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28152 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:25 am to
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To me, either Trump is playing multidimensional chess (having the Dems call for the release of the files), or he is guilty of crimes related to Epstein.


I think both of those are highly, highly unlikely. I think it's possible that something very embarrassing (as opposed to illegal) might be found out but he seems to have kept Epstein at a distance once he found out how evil the guy was.

What's more likely, especially given this shift in direction, is that Trump found out something he didn't know and has been told to shut it down. He may not be guilty of anything contained in the evidence, he may just think this is too big to expose, so he has no choice but to gaslight us about the entire thing.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10333 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:26 am to
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There's no magic list. There's no video of the rich and powerful, because they would never let themselves be videoed. It's like demanding proof that alien's didn't land at Area 51. The conspiracy nuts love fan fiction.


This. A small vocal minority of the far right is sabotaging the rest of the party over a bunch of crazy theories that are so unrealistic.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28152 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:28 am to
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A small vocal minority of the far right is sabotaging the rest of the party


The small vocal minority is Bondi? And the ultra-Maga crowd that will accept anything that Trump pours down their throat is the "rest of the party?"
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10333 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:28 am to
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Then what was the binder photo op about?


It was a cheap campaign promise to help him get elected. I don’t think the Trump administration anticipated people being obsessed over it 5 months later.

Alas, here we are having the loons like Tucker Carlson drive us off the cliff over a non-existent magical list.
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