Something I just dont understand about California and the Pacific Northwest

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California its probably the Latin influence

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Marxists

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They used immigrants to the US in the early period of the country, who left Europe yearning for a better life. They then passed that gene to their decedents who sold what they had, bought a wagon and hit the Oregon Trail.

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The best of them dragged the weak ones along in wagons.

Then the hardy ones got sick and died of dysentery right before they arrived.

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They spoke about a striving gene searching for something better.

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With no more frontier to conquer, maybe the striving gene is focused on mediocrity and socialism? No denying that the PNW and Cali are strong in that desire.

Probably just the lazy gene has become dominant however.

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They used immigrants to the US in the early period of the country

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These were not immigrants.


These were settlers. There is a huge difference between settlers and immigrants.

Settlers walk into the wild country with no civilization with nothing but their brains and what they can carry and build civilization from scratch.

Immigrants move into an existing civilization and have all of the advantages of it as a given.

Only the toughest, smartest, and most determined people are settlers.

America was built by settlers NOT immigrants.

i would suggest that your understanding of history is that of a child, and the notion of some sort of "striving" gene is ridiculous on it's face.

you should start from there and work backwards.

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i would suggest that your understanding of history is that of a child, and the notion of some sort of "striving" gene is ridiculous on it's face.

you should start from there and work backwards.

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Spoken by someone who lives in Little Rock

Friend,

It is an interesting question. I would suggest there is not a “survivor gene” stronger in some than others and the move of the West Coast to more liberal tendencies in the last century has to do more with actual population changes there and the populace’s reaction to world events, namely, when immigrants access to public health care was cut off in the 80s.

If someone has a book they could recommend on the history of the political shift on the West Coast, please leave the recommendation here.

Another interesting change of the years is the South’s radical transformation from a society that values manners, civility and hospitality to one of self-centeredness. You can see it on the roads as well, in how people dress, and in rise of the HOA and gated communities. The core social values, at least romanticized as Southern from a century ago, are entirely different from what the average Southerner values today. Drive in the PNW for one month and then return to the South and you will recognize that PNW drivers do not speed, are cautious, and are courteous. Southern drivers, on the other hand, drive without abandon. As a general rule they do not respect the speed limit. It is a subtle cultural difference that reveals more than one would expect.

In all my travels I find the most hospitable Americans live in New York, which was surprising to me. They are the best of America at this moment in time.

Yours,
TulaneLSU

Interesting question. I’m sure you’ll get plenty of uninformed answers and emotional opinions from members who are certain they know.

Even your question is loaded.

But we are here to discuss and we are entitled to our opinions. Thank you.

I hope everyone has a joyous Sunday.

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Then the hardy ones got sick and died of dysentery right before they arrived.

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That’s not the definition of hardy.

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That’s not the definition of hardy.

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They started out hardy, then dragging the moochers with them wore them down.