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re: Some European leaders have reportedly begun drawing up "NATO WITHOUT AMERICA" plans

Posted on 4/15/26 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted by Chazreinhold
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 3:53 pm to



Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167506 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 3:56 pm to
They better draw out of their bank accounts.

Pay us back for Ukraine

We won't bail out the UK when you are sick of Islamic sodomizing your daughters.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 3:58 pm to
It’s embarrassing watching all of our own goals.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 3:58 pm to

The fact that this wasn't already planned for decades ago shows how shortsighted they are.
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:00 pm to
When we pull out we shouldn't sell them any weapons systems in the future either.

Next we need to kick the U.N. out of the country and stop giving them any funding.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:04 pm to
NATO without The US is the Hitler’s dream come true


Germany runs the EU already and it will run NATO

Bringing the whole of Europe in to effectively what the US was before the 17th Amendment
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:06 pm to
The problem with this is the US has a veto power in NATO, just like in the UN, and the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, is always an American 4-star . It doesn't matter anyway, Congress will never ratify a US withdrawal from NATO, and Europe has 2 1/2 years to wait until Trump is sunsetted. The rabble rousing is a moot point.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:07 pm to
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Some European leaders have reportedly begun drawing up "NATO WITHOUT AMERICA" plans


Oh no, don’t throw us in that thar briar patch, Europe!
Posted by TROLA
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:08 pm to
Honestly in today’s hyper mobility of forces, I’d love to see us take a giant step back from European protection.. time to return the bases and coinciding infrastructure back to its original form and bring the equipment and technology home.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:08 pm to
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We're going to have to leave NATO before we can eventually fight Turkey on Israel's behalf.

Israel gets along fine with Islamic nations not dedicated to destroying them.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:27 pm to
NATO without America is nothing more than a think tank.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:17 pm to
There is no reason for the U.S. military to maintain a presence in Europe, with the only exception of tracking the location of our “allies” nukes, should we have to eliminate them.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:33 pm to
Good.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:34 pm to
Why wouldn’t they?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:36 pm to
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Israel gets along fine with Islamic nations not dedicated to destroying them.

They're already laying the groundwork. They're trying to get the U.S. to knock off Iran and Turkey so that they can be the regional hegemon and complete the Greater Israel Project.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 6:08 pm
Posted by mule74
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:45 pm to
When the US govt decided that it wasn’t going to stop sending money to Ukraine, the Euros got together and said they were going to “pick up our slack.” I think they put together a collective $15 billion after we sent $180 billion.

I am all for the United States pulling out of NATO. We don’t need it. It’s been a pure charity ever since the end of the Cold War. However, the Europeans should be begging us to stay. They are weak economically, they are weak socially, and they are weak military.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:50 pm to
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European leaders have reportedly begun drawing up "NATO WITHOUT AMERICA" plans



Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21252 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 6:17 pm to
So in other words NATO will be useless, lol
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 6:19 pm to
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It’s embarrassing watching all of our own goals.


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