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re: So why did the US have such an INITIAL testing failure, exactly?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:16 pm to texashorn
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:16 pm to texashorn
nobody gives a shite about Obama right now, you think Trump knows CDC policies and procedures? Anything Trump said about the previous administration and the CDC he was told by CDC staffers. So shut the frick up and get out of this thread
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
New regulations don’t allow for most medical test to be imported that we have in the past. The testing that was first used here didn’t work, so the medical field had to start over.
That is one of the reasons that testing is behind here.
That is one of the reasons that testing is behind here.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:18 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Is this not true?
Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said private laboratories used to be able to develop clinical tests but “in the previous administration that became regulated. For someone to do that they had to file with the FDA”, Redfield said.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:21 pm to NC_Tigah
this was a good thread that I shared with members of my family to share some good information then the blame game idiots showed up and started pimping their team 
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:22 pm to supatigah
quote:Correct.
he was told by CDC staffers
CDC Director Dr. Redfield was the one who made the claim to Trump.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:27 pm to BugAC
quote:
What was the failure? I'd prefer facts and proof, not suppositions and conjecture.
exactly
contrary to dimrat talking points, America is the shining example of doing everything right and that resulted in the lowest numbers of cases from any country world wide.
all while the dimrats went out of their way to spread fear and panic while still demanding open borders and no travel restrictions
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
trump nailed it the first time it'snothing to panic over it's basically the common cold
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
"[W]hen you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
I would guess that the initial approach was that if we don’t test we won’t have any confirmed cases.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:35 pm to TBoy
"Don't take a temp if you don't want to find a fever" was the line from the House of God. CDC doesn't seem to have been getting pressure from the WH to find more cases.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
It is a new virus, and most markets hadn’t been identified yet, and add in the Chinese not being very forthcoming with information on it.
Also, other countries were using tests that are not extremely accurate. They are declaring positives with some questionable tests. It’s since gotten better but without samples of the virus or legitimate and honest data from peer nations like China, there is not much that can be done.
In the end, there was also bureaucracy added in by the Obama admin to serve as a middle man between the FDA and CDC, which slowed things down.
Add on a media that is great exacerbating true panic with irresponsible and politically driven reporting and you get this mess. I am a liberal (non-democrat) saying this.
Also, other countries were using tests that are not extremely accurate. They are declaring positives with some questionable tests. It’s since gotten better but without samples of the virus or legitimate and honest data from peer nations like China, there is not much that can be done.
In the end, there was also bureaucracy added in by the Obama admin to serve as a middle man between the FDA and CDC, which slowed things down.
Add on a media that is great exacerbating true panic with irresponsible and politically driven reporting and you get this mess. I am a liberal (non-democrat) saying this.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:56 pm to Scruffy
quote:So Trump had no executive power to have overruled their decision on kits?
This has nothing to do with Trump, IMO.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
So Trump had no executive power to have overruled their decision on kits?
Why is everyone so determined to make Trump into a fascist
I get it, the media has been beating this drum for years but the guy, for the most part, delegates and tries to send things through the proper channels. Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
So Trump had no executive power to have overruled their decision on kits?
Seems like such a hindsight comment.
I mean he got crucified in the media for the fricking travel ban back in late Jan.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:22 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
Not sure if you're aware, but the past 20 years we've exported 99% of our medical manufacturing capacity to China,
fricking globalism.
Nationalism will save us.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:23 pm to Lago Gato
quote:
So , who are we relying on to tell us when everything is safe . This is BS
I sold every stock in my 401k three weeks ago and have been sounding the alarm bell for a while now. Might want to wait for me to give you the all clear.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:42 pm to Magician2
quote:For a super genius? I think not.
Seems like such a hindsight comment.
quote:Good for them. He doesn't care about the media.
I mean he got crucified in the media for the fricking travel ban back in late Jan.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:42 pm to AUin02
quote:So using his executive powers makes him a fascist? And he has been afraid to exercise them to date? Link?
Why is everyone so determined to make Trump into a fascist I get it, the media has been beating this drum for years but the guy, for the most part, delegates and tries to send things through the proper channels.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:54 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:You have GOT to be kidding!
Trump had no executive power to have overruled their decision on kits?
(1) The CDC claimed it "had this". Experts like Fauci vouched for CDC expertise. Johns Hopkins leaders told Trump CDC players were the best in the world. They said CDC has the best pandemic protocols in the world. Trump trusted them.
(2) Had Trump rejected all the above, the media would have gone nuclear.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:55 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:OK. It's hard to know what to believe.
(1) The CDC claimed it "had this". Experts like Fauci vouched for CDC expertise. Johns Hopkins leaders told Trump CDC players were the best in the world. They said CDC has the best pandemic protocols in the world. Trump trusted them.
(2) Had Trump rejected all the above, the media would have gone nuclear.
The whole thing about the Schumer tweet, e.g., was fake news.
Do you have any type of reliable source that is reasonably non-politicized that gives a good timeline/summary?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:57 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
So using his executive powers makes him a fascist?
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