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So why did the US have such an INITIAL testing failure, exactly?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:13 pm
That seems to be the biggest criticism of the response to COVID-19, but I will be honest and say I haven't been paying attention (because all the partisan/OMB haze has made real analysis impossible).
Why weren't we testing sooner?
Why weren't we testing more?
Do we know what the flaw in the original test was?
*Edited subject to clarify what kind of testing
Why weren't we testing sooner?
Why weren't we testing more?
Do we know what the flaw in the original test was?
*Edited subject to clarify what kind of testing
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 1:33 pm
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why weren't we testing sooner?
Why weren't we testing more?
Do we know what the flaw in the original test was?
Not sure if you're aware, but the past 20 years we've exported 99% of our medical manufacturing capacity to China, and they're holding back any exports to us.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
CDC dropped the ball. They kept their strict testing requirements (need to test negative for everything else, need to have traveled to a hot zone abroad, and other shite) way too late.
We basically had the DMV running our healthcare crisis and got the expected results from it.
We basically had the DMV running our healthcare crisis and got the expected results from it.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
So , who are we relying on to tell us when everything is safe . This is BS
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
So why did the US have such a testing failure, exactly?
What was the failure? I'd prefer facts and proof, not suppositions and conjecture.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
CDC wanted to create their own test kits.
Kits took a while to produce and were problematic from the start.
Kits took a while to produce and were problematic from the start.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:15 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
Not sure if you're aware, but the past 20 years we've exported 99% of our medical manufacturing capacity to China, and they're holding back any exports to us.
yeah i don't think that a WW2-level manufacturing was required for testing a couple hundred people, sir
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Criticizing the federal govts response to this is a dangerous discussion around here.
Duck.
Duck.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
I mean they had to create the tests. In case you haven't noticed most of the medical manufacturing has moved out of the US and I am sure that combined with having to actually make the test kits caused a delay.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, why didn't we have millions of tests stockpiled for a virus that wasn't even known to exist until about 3-4 months ago??
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
We did not (and still do not) want to know the actual numbers. Public panic is more of a concern than the actual virus ever will be.
Hence the insanely restrictive testing protocols
Hence the insanely restrictive testing protocols
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:17 pm to Scruffy
quote:
CDC dropped the ball. They kept their strict testing requirements (need to test negative for everything else, need to have traveled to a hot zone abroad, and other shite) way too late.
quote:
CDC wanted to create their own test kits.
Kits took a while to produce and were problematic from the start.
gotcha. i figured it was a failure of government somewhere
any idea why the CDC was so restrictive?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:17 pm to PEPE
quote:
Yeah, why didn't we have millions of tests
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:18 pm to PEPE
quote:The same could be said for other countries.
Yeah, why didn't we have millions of tests stockpiled for a virus that wasn't even known to exist until about 3-4 months ago??
The CDC fricked this up.
They failed at their sole purpose.
This has nothing to do with Trump, IMO.
The CDC needs to be cleaned out at the top.
Clearly they are doing something wrong.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
Any idea why that is Trump’s fault?
Hasn’t fauci been in place a lot longer than Trump? Why the frick didn’t he say something sooner?
Hasn’t fauci been in place a lot longer than Trump? Why the frick didn’t he say something sooner?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
any idea why the CDC was so restrictive?
I don't know. They were assuming there to be no community spread for some reason. The only reason we ever found out about the Washington nursing home was the doctors there defied the CDC recommendations and got tests anyway.
I guess they just didn't want to run out of tests but it seems a little sketchy the way they were restricting tests.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Because they are an overpoliticized bureaucracy.
any idea why the CDC was so restrictive?
People will say their budget was cut, it wasn’t.
The emergency funding from Ebola ran out and they returned to pre-Ebola funding levels.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’ll try to give you an answer, above the skyscreamers.
LINK
quote:
The responsibility for the coronavirus test kit shortage appears to lie with the CDC’s choice to develop and distribute its own kit rather than use the one recommended by the World Health Organization, according to ProPublica. But the CDC’s tests didn’t work, falsely flagging harmless samples that contained viruses other than Covid-19.
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
When the CDC delivered the tests to various state labs, the labs performed checks on them to make sure they were testing accurately, which they are supposed to do. Many of the state labs found that the tests they received from the CDC were not performing accurately and couldn't be used. Apparently one of the reagents was contaminated or not of high enough quality, though I don't know the specifics.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Because the Chinese wouldn't supply COVID DNA for mapping.
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