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re: So why did the US have such an INITIAL testing failure, exactly?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
I would never have guessed you to be so touchy.
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm RA'ing your posts about Trump/Obama now
How in the actual frick are you not an administrator by now?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
I thought our first test kits some registered as contaminated so trump ordered all of them to be disposed.
That's why we had a delay in time
That's why we had a delay in time
Posted on 3/12/20 at 1:59 pm to Ace Midnight
they're going to have to learn to be a lot more flexible because these pandemics are going to become more and more common
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
For the U.S. to reach South Korea's testing level as a share of population, we have to test 65,000 ppl for coronavirus every day.
How much is 65,000?
Take all the testing we've ever done.
Double that number.
Then take that number—triple it.
And do it every day.
How much is 65,000?
Take all the testing we've ever done.
Double that number.
Then take that number—triple it.
And do it every day.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they're going to have to learn to be a lot more flexible because these pandemics are going to become more and more common
I think they're going to enjoy the freedom to act they will have with the added capacity of the state and private labs. Obviously they can pivot to doing inspections and evaluations of the labs they certify so they can still feel empowered and important. But, it will be a culture change from what they've done in the past.
Scale up will be MUCH easier in the future. If we can couple that with some repatriation of pharmaceutical industry, it will represent a paradigm shift going forward.
But, we can't start doing the AAR now - we have to win the battle we're in. I think we're doing that, but there is a bumpy March and April to get through.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:03 pm to texashorn
quote:Trump has blamed Obama for lack of private test development? LINK?
If Trump can blame Obama, WE can blame Trump.
The only reference to Obama I'm aware of is when Dems erroneously claimed Trump to be responsible for small cuts to CDC which occurred prior to Trump taking office.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:04 pm to BeeFense5
quote:And many here are willing to shut down any discussion that could lead to Dear Leader.
You are weirdly fixated on trying to blame trump
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:05 pm to Redleg Guy
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For the U.S. to reach South Korea's testing level as a share of population, we have to test 65,000 ppl for coronavirus every day.
we didn't need this rate initially. the failure was the initial testing, which would have been in the low thousands (if that)
that failure has created the mass spread, which is applicable to the point you were trying to make in your post
we wouldn't have to test at that level across the country if our initial testing had been faster/better
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:05 pm to Redleg Guy
It's a task, no doubt, but our strength as a nation has always been flexibility and adaptability. The UK is able to do 10k tests a day now with a population a quarter of ours. We can get there.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:05 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:He claimed that there was an Obama era rule that he had to change. It is in this thread ffs.
Trump has blamed Obama for lack of private test development? LINK?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:06 pm to mmcgrath
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And many here are willing to shut down any discussion that could lead to Dear Leader.
this
is
not
that
thread
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:07 pm to TigerDoc
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It's a task, no doubt, but our strength as a nation has always been flexibility and adaptability. The UK is able to do 10k tests a day now with a population a quarter of ours. We can get there.
we can probably be up to 100k/day in a week or 2 once the infrastructure gets in place and the left hand knows what the right hand is doing
this thread is about how badly things failed at the outset
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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this
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thread
Read
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So why did the US have such an INITIAL testing failure, exactly?
Because big government can't solve every problem that gets dropped in their lap overnight...
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:09 pm to mmcgrath
Bee hasn't posted about Trump since i said i was about to start RA'ing
you came in and revived a dead discussion
you came in and revived a dead discussion
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:10 pm to ApexTiger
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Because big government can't solve every problem that gets dropped in their lap overnight...
other countries did, though. that's a problem
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Right. It seems like the initial failure was failure to use the WHO test kits and probably stringency of testing standards. I don't know that you should expect to get a test to a novel virus on a dime, but I don't know all the issues they may have had with the WHO test (or if there were any), but in hindsight it looks bad to not have taken advantage of an available test. The NSC got rid of its global pandemic team a couple of years ago and that probably didn't help.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:15 pm to gthog61
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Hasn’t fauci been in place a lot longer than Trump? Why the frick didn’t he say something sooner?
Something about that guy I can't put my finger on. Fox had another doctor from John Hopkins on earlier complain a bit about Dr. Fauci.
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