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re: Should businesses have the right to turn away those who can't prove they were vaccinated?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:37 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:37 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
quote:I will never understand this mindset.
if the US does go all nazi and require it then MDs in the fam will give us these “vaccination cards” to say we’ve had it even though we of course won’t.
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I support private property rights!
But if the owner of private property conditions entry onto his property upon a condition that I do NOT want to meet, I will commit fraud upon the property owner in order to gain access to his private property contrary to his express wishes!
'Cuz frick that property owner. This is 'Mer'ca!
Signed,
Self_Centered_Who_Dat
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:38 pm to RD Dawg
No.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:38 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
But if the owner of private property conditions entry onto his property
Who is setting the standard though? The venue, the event coordinator, the performer, the ticket agency?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:40 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Does it matter, vis-a-vis you as the ticket buyer?
Who is setting the standard though? The venue, the event coordinator, the performer, the ticket agency?
It is a matter of contract between those entities.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 1:42 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
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That’s deranged.
??
Is it deranged to show proof of vaccination for a kid entering public school?
I would assume nursing home workers are required to show proof.
quote:
MDs in the fam will give us these “vaccination cards” to say we’ve had it even though we of course won’t.
You think there wouldn't be severe penalties for that?
BTW ya don't have to get the vaccination or card if ya don't want to and don't have to go to places that might require it.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:01 pm to RD Dawg
Herrr derrrrr! Don't be brangin' that somewhat contagious, barely dangerous virus into this here establishment. How daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare you?!?!?!
My pee-paw caught it and ran a ever of 100.3 for an entire afternoon. We can't be runnin' no slightly mild fevers around here, no sir-ree!
My pee-paw caught it and ran a ever of 100.3 for an entire afternoon. We can't be runnin' no slightly mild fevers around here, no sir-ree!
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:04 pm to RD Dawg
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Should businesses have the right to turn away those who can't prove they were vaccinated?
Once all Americans have had the opportunity to be vaccinated, there is no need to prove that you've had it. There's no reason to require masks. There's no reason to limit capacity. Once all Americans have had the opportunity to be vaccinated, then everyone is responsible for their own health. If you're afraid of getting the virus, (a) get vaccinated, or (b) stay the frick home.
I'm going to see Bama-LSU in Bryant Denny in November. I should be able to sit there with no mask. Why do I care if the guy beside me has been vaccinated, or if he's wearing a mask? I have been, so I'm safe. If the guy beside me wants to be safe, he has those same two choices. It's not my responsibility.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:08 pm to AggieHank86
Good I will keep that in mind the next time you’re white knighting about a bakery deciding who to do business with or a bar enforcing its dress code.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:09 pm to AggieHank86
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Are you actually saying that I cannot deny access to my bar, if a potential patron hates our Aggies?
I'm having trouble imagining a scenario where an Aggie-hater would even want to go to a gay bar.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:10 pm to ShakeandBake
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So unless I've missed something, the CDC, arbiter of truth that they are, says they don't know if the vaccine prevents transmission of the virus to others.
It may not prevent transmission, but it does prevent getting sick.
Vaccinated people could be walking around at an event with trace particles of the virus in their nostrils, but if everyone at the event has been vaccinated, no one is getting sick, so who cares?
And if someone hasn't been vaccinated, then stay the frick at home...or else accept the responsibility for getting sick if you do.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:11 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I will never understand this mindset.
That says more about you than them.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:13 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
quote:Please do. Just do not selectively-edit.
Good I will keep that in mind the next time you’re white knighting about a bakery deciding who to do business with
I argued THROUGHOUT that debacle AGAINST the existence of public accommodation laws, but analyzed the actual CASE under the law as it existed.
As a whole, this forum has terrible difficulty distinguishing the difference between analyzing what the laws SHOULD BE versus what the law ACTUALLY IS.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:14 pm to AggieHank86
I've stated my piece clearly from a HIPAA perspective involving what happens with the data AFTER it is given.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:16 pm to BiteMe2020
quote:Then please DO do your best to edify.
That says more about you than them.
How exactly DOES a supporter of private property rights argue (with ANY internal consistency) that he is entitled to circumvent the conditions imposed by a property owner for entry upon the premises of that property owner, just because that first person does not LIKE those conditions.
The argument is essentially "frick that property owner, I'll do what I want on his property."
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:18 pm to BamaGradinTn
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And if someone hasn't been vaccinated, then stay the frick at home...or else accept the responsibility for getting sick if you do.
Cool, I accept the risk of getting COVID and being tired for 1.5 weeks again, at least once my antibodies wear off, if they even do wear off. I'm not missing LSU spank Bama this year.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:21 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The argument is essentially "frick that property owner, I'll do what I want on his property."
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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I'm primarily focused on the enforcement of protecting PHA through HIPAA.
You don’t understand HIPAA very well. There is nothing in HIPAA that prevents an individual from being required to disclose their own PHI. It only applies to covered entities and their requirements to protect an individual’s PHI that they have access to. For example, your employer is not a covered entirety and has every right to disclose any health information they may have on file for you, and HIPAA doesn’t stop them. A business who processes insurance claims is a covered entity and would not be allowed to disclose any of your PHI that they may have access to without your permission. Obviously healthcare providers and their offices/facilities are also covered entities and must protect your info until you give them consent to release it.
The folks who have said few people have an understanding of what HIPAA does and doesn’t do, are correct.
Dr. Yipskiddlydooo
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:25 pm to YipSkiddlyDooo
quote:Thank you.
The folks who have said few people have an understanding of what HIPAA does and doesn’t do, are correct.
You will now be called all sorts of unpleasant things, for agreeing with me.
"Muh HIPPA" (sp, lol) has become "Muh Constitution." Lots of people THINK that they understand what it says.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:35 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
As a whole, this forum has terrible difficulty distinguishing the difference between analyzing what the laws SHOULD BE versus what the law ACTUALLY IS.
You do seem to pick and choose which of those two angles of argument you choose to stress, and more often than not it's whichever cuts against the majority of the board.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 2:42 pm to RD Dawg
If a business could refused service if you haven't been vaccinated, surely they could also refuse service if you've received an abortion.
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