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Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:19 pm to RD Dawg
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Should businesses have the right to turn away those who can't prove they were vaccinated?
Should they have the right? Sure. They should have the right to turn away business from anyone they chose. If it hurts their bottom lines, well that's on the business.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:20 pm to RD Dawg
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Businesses should be allowed to open up and run their business as they see fit. As long as they are not breaking any laws, they should be able to do so. Those who choose not to do what it takes to make customers feel safe, risk losing potential revenue. Customers can also choose where they shop. This used to be a free country... 
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Fixed it for you.
How and why do you think a business would be bound by HIPAA for a prospective customer? If the customer provides a vaccination verification to the business, they would be consenting to the company receiving that information. If they don't provide it to them, the company doesn't receive that information. Refusing business to someone who isn't vaccinated doesn't insinuate that any medical information provided to them would be disseminated to anyone else, which would be the only way any HIPAA laws would or could be broken in this scenario
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:22 pm to RD Dawg
So unless I've missed something, the CDC, arbiter of truth that they are, says they don't know if the vaccine prevents transmission of the virus to others.
If it doesn't prevent transmission to others and simply prevents a bad case of C19 if you get the virus then who cares who has been vaccinated?
What it will tell me is where I should spend my money.
If it doesn't prevent transmission to others and simply prevents a bad case of C19 if you get the virus then who cares who has been vaccinated?
What it will tell me is where I should spend my money.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:23 pm to RD Dawg
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Where is it a HIPPA violation?
Schools require proof of vaccination.
Is that a HIPPA violation?
Yeah. If there is one thing you should know, a lot of people on this board do not understand HIPPA.
And if schools can require it, so can businesses. Take your business elsewhere.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:24 pm to JOJO Hammer
quote:I agree with this answer, but it is an ideological question ("should"), rather than a legal one.quote:businesses should be able to turn anyone away. If you don’t want my unvaccinated money someone else will take it.
Should businesses have the right to turn away those who can't prove they were vaccinated?
Whether businesses ARE ALLOWED to do so is not ideological, but rather a question under existing law. HIPAA may indeed play a role in that analysis.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:24 pm to PewPewBlue
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I assume you support voter ID requirement laws?
Imagine the clown world where you need a Wuhan Flu card to enter a sporting event, but can vote without an ID.
Don't forget the DMV's Real ID, it's due to start Oct of this year.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:25 pm to RD Dawg
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Where is it a HIPPA violation?
Schools require proof of vaccination.
Is that a HIPPA violation?
It is the Health Information Privacy and Accessibility Act
ONE P, TWO A'S
As to the question, there are currently no transactions allowed to require PHA for completion.
You can't require someone to give their social security number to purchase a concert ticket so why would you be allowed to require a proof of vaccine?
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:25 pm to RD Dawg
Great way to run a business into the ground.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:26 pm to fjlee90
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a lot of people on this board do not understand HIPPA.
Clearly neither do you if you spell it with two P's.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:26 pm to RD Dawg
Counterfeitting vaccine cards from the CDC could be done by a 10yr old. There is no way to enforce this.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:30 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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You can't require someone to give their social security number to purchase a concert ticket so why would you be allowed to require a proof of vaccine?
WTF does one have to do with other?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:31 pm to lsufball19
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Should they have the right? Sure. They should have the right to turn away business from anyone they chose.
That would be discrimination.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:33 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Close. You got the "Health" and "Act" parts.quote:It is the Health Information Privacy and Accessibility Act
Where is it a HIPPA violation?
Schools require proof of vaccination.
Is that a HIPPA violation?
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996. Yes, it does include privacy provisions. Don't feel bad. Almost no one understands HIPAA.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:35 pm to fjlee90
quote:So very true.
a lot of people on this board do not understand (the Act).
People toss the name of the Act around like some sort of magic talisman. Most have absolutely no understanding of whether the Act applies or not.
HIPAA is focused upon preventing third-parties who are in POSSESSION of a person's ("Patient") protected health information ("PHI") from improperly disclosing that information. I am not aware of anything in the Act which prohibits a FOURTH party from REQUESTING health information OR from denying services to a Patient who declines to share that PHI. The decision lies with the patient.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:35 pm to RD Dawg
Yes. They should also have the right to turn away those who are black, gay, red headed or anything else. It's called freedom.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:38 pm to AggieHank86
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Almost no one understands HIPAA.
I'm no legal analyst. I'm primarily focused on the enforcement of protecting PHA through HIPAA.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:41 pm to AggieHank86
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HIPAA may indeed play a role in that analysis.
why do you think this?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:45 pm to AggieHank86
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Most have absolutely no understanding of whether the Act applies or not.
It applies clearly because of the current lack of safeguards and enforcement both with certain venues and third party ticketing agencies in protecting transmission and storage of PHA.
Many of the ticket sites are operating on TLS 1.0 and 1.1 which have massive security flaws as opposed to TLS 1.3.
The reason schools can have certain PHA is that the regulatory agencies make it very clear how that information can be collected, stored and transmitted.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 12:47 pm
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