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re: Should businesses have the right to turn away those who can't prove they were vaccinated?
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:11 am to Lutcher Lad
Posted on 2/27/21 at 1:11 am to Lutcher Lad
I had covid - it was the sniffles fir a week. This is all so dumb. If you believe the covid death numbers I feel sorry for you.
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Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:30 am to RD Dawg
quote:
Should businesses have the right to turn away those who can't prove they were vaccinated?
So I have a couple of thoughts.
Why did everyone give him a down vote?
Does anyone in this board not believe businesses should be able to run themselves as they see fit?
Now these are private businesses. Not the government.
Anyways, I suspect some businesses are going to work this way, when the vaccine b becomes widely a available.
The cruise industry comes to mind. You are on a boat with limited ventilation.
I think a lot of people on those things would feel more comfortable knowing everyone had the vaccine.
I'm a proponent of a private business running itself as it wants. If it wants to limit its customers, that is its choice.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:33 am to RD Dawg
Wouldn’t that violate HIPPA?
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:43 am to RD Dawg
I’ll just use MyCovidCard.com to get a fake card...
Posted on 2/27/21 at 6:55 am to RD Dawg
quote:
RD Dawg
I doubt you’re still readin in here because you’re getting your shite pushed... but your mindset is exactly what allowed Hitler to exterminate millions of people. Congratulations on being a shite stain on society.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 7:36 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Assuming that you remove all vestiges of public accommodation laws and protected class from your legal code, YES.
What's the difference between refusing service for unvaccinated people vs people who have had abortions?
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:44 am to TaderSalad
quote:OP thinks that the owner of private property should have the right to set conditions for entry upon his private property by others, and you call him a “shite stain.”
I doubt you’re still readin in here because you’re getting your shite pushed... but your mindset is exactly what allowed Hitler to exterminate millions of people. Congratulations on being a shite stain on society.
frick his property rights, ‘cuz YOU want to use HIS property. YOUR desires trump his property rights, eh comrade?
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The most humorous element of your position is that I have no doubt that you consider yourself to be a “conservative” and will insist that I am a Socialist ... or a Nazi ... while you argue that the STATE gets to decide who will have access to MY property.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 9:00 am
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:50 am to Azkiger
quote:Not sure I understand your question. There are about a thousand “differences,” but none of them are relevant here.quote:What's the difference between refusing service for unvaccinated people vs people who have had abortions?quote:Assuming that you remove all vestiges of public accommodation laws and protected class from your legal code, YES.
If a business could refused service if you haven't been vaccinated, surely they could also refuse service if you've received an abortion
If a property owner wants to exclude you from his property, he should be able to do so, regardless whether he is motivated by vaccinations, abortions, height, weight or poor sartorial selections.
It is his damned property.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 8:56 am
Posted on 2/27/21 at 8:55 am to RD Dawg
Yes, a business owner should be able to deny business to anyone for any reason.
Race, religion, sex, sexual identity, hair color, shoe size, disability...
Race, religion, sex, sexual identity, hair color, shoe size, disability...
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:01 am to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Who is the covered entity as defined in the HIPAA legislation in this scenario?
Should businesses have the right to violate HIPAA by turning away those who can't prove they were vaccinated?
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:06 am to Diamondawg
quote:You are 100% correct that HIPAA does not apply here, but let’s set that aside for a moment. Hell, let’s assume arguendo that HIPA does apply.
Diamondawg
I don’t think that the OP was asking a legal question ((What does the law say?) so much as a philosophical one ((What SHOULD the law be?)
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:08 am to RD Dawg
quote:
Should businesses have the right to turn away those who can't prove they were vaccinated? by
So just completely throw out all HIPAA laws huh?
If all medical records (such as vaccine history) aren't covered by HIPAA laws, then they are useless.
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 9:10 am
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:14 am to imjustafatkid
quote:You are just holding the term HIPAA in front of you like some talisman against evil spirits.
imjustafatkid
Give us your analysis as to WHY you think it applies here. Cite the language upon which you rely.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:19 am to AggieHank86
quote:He mentioned specifically
You are 100% correct that HIPAA does not apply here, but let’s set that aside for a moment. Hell, let’s assume arguendo that HIPA does apply.
I don’t think that the OP was asking a legal question ((What does the law say?) so much as a philosophical one ((What SHOULD the law be?)
quote:If said sports venue was private, say Notre Dame, then absolutely. If said sports venue is public, say Dudy Noble Field at Mississippi State, then absolutely not. Private being the operative word. Any private enterprise should be able to be selective in their clientele.
How bout sports venues?
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:30 am to Diamondawg
I agree that the argument as to government-owned property has quite different parameters. In particular, the element of “private property rights” no longer plays a key role.
What is your analysis as to what might prevent a governmental entity in the USA from conditioning entry onto government property upon a vaccination ... whether for COVID,
smallpox, rabies, ebola or whatever? A Constitutional provision? A statute? Or just an ideological principle?
What is your analysis as to what might prevent a governmental entity in the USA from conditioning entry onto government property upon a vaccination ... whether for COVID,
smallpox, rabies, ebola or whatever? A Constitutional provision? A statute? Or just an ideological principle?
This post was edited on 2/27/21 at 9:48 am
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:31 am to imjustafatkid
Now liberal Hank is a HIPAA expert 
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:37 am to SDVTiger
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Now liberal Hank is a HIPAA expert
I imagine the list of topics he's actually an expert in is quite small.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:37 am to SDVTiger
Hi,STD.
A day without my stalker is like a day without sunshine. No, not a good analogy. More like an airplane ride without a flatulent dude in the next seat.
A day without my stalker is like a day without sunshine. No, not a good analogy. More like an airplane ride without a flatulent dude in the next seat.
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:39 am to imjustafatkid
quote:Yet neither of you has even attempted to present a coherent argument as to why you think HIPAA might apply.
imjustafatkid
Posted on 2/27/21 at 9:39 am to RD Dawg
Didn't do this for the flu, so why now?
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