re: SCOTUS to hear AR-15 case

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we conservatives need to be honest with ourselves for a moment...


a basic arse AR-15 chambered in 5.56 with a 14.5" / 16" barrel IS the same rifle as a basic arse M4A1 Block 1 rifle chambered in 5.56 with a 14.5" barrel.

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The honesty aspect is that the 2nd Amendment was, in part, for the common man to be able to arm himself with at least whatever a member of an opposing infantryman might have (or some equivalent). While nowhere is this expressly stated, we can glean that meaning from Federalist 29 & 46 as the idea of a citizen militia was for it to not only repel foreign invaders but to opposed domestic despotism as well. Those things cannot be done if the opposing infantryman is far superiorly armed.

So if we're going to dilute the right enough to argue about whether or not a specific firearm should be considered a "weapon of war" we should be doing so from the rhetorical ground that being able to possess weapons of war was the minimum idea behind the 2nd Amendment, not some pearl-clutching exclusion to it.

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Funny how the first part of the Second Amendment never appears in these convos.

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Read DC v. Heller. The prefatory clause (which has nothing to do with "regulations" in the modern sense) in no way limits the operative clause.

"A well-read electorate, being necessary to a free State, the right of the people to read and own books, shall not be infringed."

Based on Democrat arguments regarding the 2A, they would say this sentence either 1) doesn't protect book ownership at all, since the electorate is no longer well-read, or 2) only protects the ability of well-read people, collectively, to own books.

When are you saddling up?

Agreed!

"I realize this meme is sort of a tongue-in-cheek joke based on the premise that the feds are collecting/reading info on people online. But if this comment somehow makes it's away across some feds screen somewhere, I don't mind admitting I've still got all mine, and so do a hundred million other Americans."

I don't even think it is cute to suggest they have been lost or whatever. I am a proud defender of my second amendment rights and they shall not be infringed.

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Blue states will quickly move to shut these purchases down by enacting strict permit-to-purchase schemes (see Colorado) which will make them very difficult to obtain and onerous to keep.

Then we'll have to wait another 10 years until those cases work their way up to SCOTUS.

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Exactly

Republicans have to get dirty.

The first thing Trump has to do is rewrite and reword a new EO regarding birth right citizenship. Make them have to drag it back through the courts.

It really doesn’t matter what they decide. It is our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

The Supreme Court can go get fricked.

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Actually I think they'd probably point out how it's always conservatives wanting to ban books for some reason.

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Is this the part where we pretend that requiring elementary school libraries remove gay porn equals banning books?

A gun rights lawyer from the State of Washington who has been following the 2 cases in question here... Grant v Higgins & Viramontes v Cook County, Ill.

Click the link in the OP.

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ETA: Before some dumbass says that people shouldn't own a weapon of war, the AR-15 has never once been used in a military skirmish, war or anything else.

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The 2A absolutely recognizes the right of every American to own "weapons of war"