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re: Russian Interference in the election?

Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Bourre
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:01 pm to
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You understand Russia is trying to divide us, right? They work both sides, this is much bigger than us vs them politics.


The problem is it went from an investigation on Russian interference to liberals claiming Trump committed treason. Y’all didn’t want the truth, y’all wanted a win
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:01 pm to
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You understand Russia is trying to divide us, right?


1. We were already divided.

2. this has been going on for decades

3. leftists didn't mind when it was communists Russia infiltrating our mainstream news, entertainment and academia to divide us.
Why the sudden change of heart?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:01 pm to
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You’ve spent decades trying to cast us as a bunch of racist, sexist bigots and homophobes. Why don’t you and the rest of the left just sack the frick up and own and stop trying to blame the Russian boogeyman?



This. The American establishment left would eagerly and happily collude with anyone willing to help them win. Look at how carelessly Schiff and Warner attempted to get into from Russians. Look how openly HRC used Ukraine and other foreign interests against Trump. Look at how they coerce the media and leverage their friends at the big social media and tech mnc's.

Any liberal telling you otherwise is a liar.

Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:09 pm to
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Give it up. It’s over.
When he's still handing down indictments 90 days from now will you begrudge me reminding you that I think you're a dumbass?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:10 pm to
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When he's still handing down indictments 90 days from now

for whom? is he going to target Youtube next?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:11 pm to
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When he's still handing down indictments 90 days from now will you begrudge me reminding you that I think you're a dumbass?


You got a prediction on what's next down the pike? It's hard for me to see what sort of leap they can take from here that might be much worse, but I'm not as attuned to this stuff as you seem to be.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:12 pm to
Gtfo here with all that. If Mueller had anything in the same orbit as collusion or election rigging, he wouldn't be fumble fricking around with mail fraud charges while a Russian usurper sits in the oval office shaping American policy.
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:13 pm to
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Please stop. You’re embarrassing yourself. Your side wants nothing to do with our side. You’ve spent decades trying to cast us as a bunch of racist, sexist bigots and homophobes. Why don’t you and the rest of the left just sack the frick up and own it and stop trying to blame the Russian boogeyman? Please save your lectures about coming together because your side has zero desire to come together. Your definition of compromise is agreeing with your side 100 percent.
*sigh*
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:17 pm to
It took them over a year to indict 16 trolls. THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:17 pm to
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When he's still handing down indictments 90 days from now will you begrudge me reminding you that I think you're a dumbass?


Who’s he going to indict next? Is he going to nail some poor Russian street vendor’s arse to the wall for selling pro Trump T-shirt without a proper license? Obviously he was trying to influence the election by saturating the voting public with witty t shirts
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:18 pm to
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Gtfo here with all that. If Mueller had anything in the same orbit as collusion or election rigging, he wouldn't be fumble fricking around with mail fraud charges while a Russian usurper sits in the oval office shaping American policy.
It's a very complicated investigation, but the man can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Have faith, citizen.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:19 pm to
The investigation is not over but the "collusion" argument as it pertains to hacking the election is toast.
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:21 pm to
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Gtfo here with all that. If Mueller had anything in the same orbit as collusion or election rigging, he wouldn't be fumble fricking around with mail fraud charges while a Russian usurper sits in the oval office shaping American policy.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:21 pm to
NT74 right now

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101667 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:22 pm to
Yeah, it's just hard to fathom to me how you possibly pivot from 'everyone was UNWITTING in everything these Russians were trying to do' to 'but, wait look at this, these guys were WITTING and happy to collude with them to steal it all from Hillary.'

What else could THEY have been doing in concert, other than the goofiness laid out here?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19109 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:22 pm to
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It's a very complicated investigation, but the man can walk and chew gum at the same time



Oh yeah, an incredible skill for a guy who’s literally living by the motto “ the internets is serious bidness”
Posted by BigJim
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Why are your brains drawing this "end of the line" conclusion because 16 individuals and entities were indicted today? The information ops portion of the investigation is one of 5 or 6 parts. And these indictments doen't even wrap that part up. It's just 16 guys they have enough on to indict today.


Logically you have a point. Maybe there is more coming.

Politically it's done.

First the FBI skerit FISA warrants were built off of partisan attack documents. Now, the only thing we have is a couple of Russian internet trolls?

He is going to be under IMMENSE pressure to produce something or wrap it up.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Navytiger74


Mayor of L City
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:23 pm to
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The defendants allegedly staged rallies both in support of then-president-elect Trump and opposed to him in New York on the same day.


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