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re: The underlying crime.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz on 5/29/24 at 10:08 pm
[quote]Is this just for Trump's trial?[/quote] It’s unprecedented. You can’t take your guilty votes and cobble them together and claim you have a unanimous guilty verdict. You could convict anyone of anything you wanted if you bury them with enough charges and take the guilty votes from each char...

re: The underlying crime.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz on 5/29/24 at 9:39 pm
[quote]1. Violation of fed campaign finance laws 2. Violation of ny state election laws 3. Fed tax code Violation[/quote] This is where his ridiculous cumulative vote comes into play. The vote can be 8 to 4 not guilty in all three of those but the judge has said the 4 guilty votes are cumulative...
[quote]So your theory is they wrote 55 pages of instructions for the jury and neither gave them a copy OR read them out to them?[/quote] Why is this up for debate? The jury was not given a copy of the instructions. You know how we know this? Because the jury sent a note to the judge during delibe...
[quote]See, you don't have to be unanimous on the predicate crime because wasn't indicted for that predicate crime[/quote] But that’s the problem with this case in a nutshell. The crimes in question are misdemeanor in nature but the statute of limitations has expired. The only way to get them in ...
My thinking is that this relates to the unnamed predicate crime. You need to convict him of that to trigger a vote on the more serious crimes. However instead of instructing the jury they must unanimously convict him of an underlying crime before they can move on, he told them their votes would be c...
[quote]Only 4 jurors for each of the 3 “crimes” trump is charged with have to say he is guilty and that results in a conviction?[/quote] It’s patently absurd what the judge did here. It’s giving 4 jurors the power to end run around the other 8. He’s saying 4 4 4 holds cumulative, unanimous guilty...
When people finally have enough and shite pops off, the first people always drug into the street and dealt with are people like this. You’re either on the side of law abiding citizens or you’re on the side of criminals ...

re: Jury excused for the day

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz on 5/29/24 at 4:03 pm
I think the judge’s instructions are so vague and ridiculous that he’s probably created a scenario within the jury room where they don’t even fully understand what they are voting to convict him of. Telling them they don’t have to be unanimous but he’d accept a cumulative 4 4 4 vote as unanimous is ...
[quote]My fear is that this jury is stacked with a bunch of liberal east coast never-Trumpers who are dying to convict him.[/quote] If that was the case, they’d have a verdict by now. No verdict today means there are Trump supporters in the jury room....
There’s also speculation that several jurors are firmly in the not guilty camp and testimony is being requested to apply pressure on them. ...
She was also filled balls deep every night by the special prosecutor she was suckin and frickin. ...
[quote]I’m in the jury room right now holding firm[/quote] Unless Rubio enters the room and then well you’re holding something else firm :lol:...
Just a little anecdote. My grandfather brought back from the war a very sizable Nazi flag. During military reunions and other functions the flag would be displayed upon the ground where the attendees would walk on it throughout the event. His reasoning and that of the other attendees was that’s exa...
I don’t think this is going to fly with the two lawyers in the room. You might be able to fool some people, but I don’t think you can pull this wool over the eyes of the lawyers. Plus human nature tells me that others in the room are naturally going to look to them for clarity. ...
[quote]Mother Theresa[/quote] A complete and total fraud. Look into her. She was a grifter who everyone associates with helping the poor and downtrodden and yet she stayed in luxurious hotels around the globe. She also had no problem telling the sick their pain brought them closer to God while at...
[quote] If that was a street cam, why did it move prior?[/quote] Because someone is filming the video of the explosion on their phone. Do you see the start, pause, forward and back buttons? ...
[quote]I urge posters who support, and even praise Putin, to remember this[/quote] Who? Who are these posters that come one here an extol how wonderful Putin is? Bring receipts, show some posts. [quote]You can completely disagree with providing support to Ukraine and not support Putin.[/quot...
[quote]Yeah, but these pussies would flop in two fricking seconds if they had to go through The Long March or hide out in the jungles of Cuba.[/quote] Never underestimate the lengths that raw hatred will drive a man. Communists left a trail of approximately 100 million bodies in their wake last ce...
[quote]Yeah, these commie pussies would run for the fricking hills the second anyone pulled out a gun[/quote] Don’t underestimate commies. They have proven time and time again throughout history that when given power they will use it ruthlessly and violently ...
How many times do we have to do this.? The event was permitted for 3500 people max. What you see in the pic are those 3500 people. The barricades are clearly visible I the shot. But but but there’s nobody outside the barricade.. no fricking shite. Do you honestly think the NYPD was going to allow any...