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re: Ron’s polls are crashing because of his unpopular stance on social security.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:25 pm to the808bass
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:25 pm to the808bass
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Do you believe that to be the position of the Trump economic team? Would they admit to that position?
Who would bear the burden of such a plan?
In 2015 Trump ran as a fiscal conservative. He was anything but that. So we can disregard anything he claims he will do as nonsense.
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:26 pm to Flats
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a lot of them have admitted that they're populists
Yes. But populism is meaningless after the “populii” part. What are the people being led to? What do they believe? What are the solutions for the issues that the people believe to be important?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:26 pm to TigerAttorney
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TigerAttorney
You are right. And for some reason the debt is Trump’s fault when 100% of the authority to appropriate and spend money comes from congress. They probably believe impeachment means removal too.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
How would you like to be the new age to collect what you paid into 66.5 to get your SS payments. You can no longer do the same profession you have done for 48 years because of arthritis.
You can enjoy life and grandbabies barely; and then they change it to 70?
DeSantis is the Governor of Florida and has always been for Paul Ryan's plan.
Paul Ryan is suddenly very anxious because DC stole from SS.
DeSantis pinky swore with Paul Ryan to promote this crap of insolvency. Screwing people over. They spend money on studying Chinese hookers while they are drunk and on Ukraine for a proxy fake war.
frick them if they change SS to 70. Ron is from Fla. he is el stupido kicking out all the illegal laborers as well...
Ask Macron what happened when he did.
You can enjoy life and grandbabies barely; and then they change it to 70?
DeSantis is the Governor of Florida and has always been for Paul Ryan's plan.
Paul Ryan is suddenly very anxious because DC stole from SS.
DeSantis pinky swore with Paul Ryan to promote this crap of insolvency. Screwing people over. They spend money on studying Chinese hookers while they are drunk and on Ukraine for a proxy fake war.
frick them if they change SS to 70. Ron is from Fla. he is el stupido kicking out all the illegal laborers as well...
Ask Macron what happened when he did.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:26 pm to the808bass
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They’re perfectly happy to jettison conservatism for Trumpism. And they don’t even need to know what Trumpism is. Just that Trump is leading it.
Correct. He could do a 180 on everything he has stood for tomorrow and everyone in Cult45 would buy in instantly
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:27 pm to GumboPot
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And for some reason the debt is Trump’s fault when 100% of the authority to appropriate and spend money comes from congress.
So Trump didn’t cut taxes. Cool.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:28 pm to Powerman
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In 2015 Trump ran as a fiscal conservative. He was anything but that.
All that spending authority Trump had…where did that come from?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:28 pm to cajunangelle
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How would you like to be the new age to collect what you paid into 66.5 to get your SS payments. You can no longer do the same profession you have done for 48 years because of arthritis.
Lol. DeSantis has proposed nothing that looks like this. This is literally the same argument that Democrats since Tip O’Neill have been using to keep from reforming SS. Embarrassing.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:29 pm to GumboPot
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All that spending authority Trump had…where did that come from?
So you're saying Trump is ineffective and powerless?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:29 pm to the808bass
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What are the people being led to? What do they believe?
They believe in Trump. Hell, they say as much all the time. We've got people here ostensibly from the right side of the aisle sticking up for figgin Disney, all because the guy who went after Disney is Trump's opponent.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:29 pm to cajunangelle
NO ONE has said they would change the age for those close to retirement.
Look back to what Reagan did to improve SS's solvency.
Or keep sticking your head in the sand.
Look back to what Reagan did to improve SS's solvency.
Or keep sticking your head in the sand.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:29 pm to GumboPot
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All that spending authority Trump had…where did that come from?
I read this as Trump accomplished nothing, then. He didn’t confirm SCOTUS justices. He didn’t cut taxes. Nothing.
You take no responsibility, you get no credit. You’re a shadow of a moral being.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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MOAR LEFTISM
So you, as a Desantis supporter want to obliterate Social Security and Medicare.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:31 pm to moneyg
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So you, as a Desantis supporter want to obliterate Social Security and Medicare.
When did you stop beating your ex wife?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:31 pm to moneyg
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So you, as a Desantis supporter want to obliterate Social Security and Medicare.
SFP isn't a Desantis supporter and the obliteration verbiage is from a truth social post from a circus clown
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:32 pm to Flats
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Eh, a lot of them have admitted that they're populists, not conservatives.
A populist can be far Left or far Right and anything in between. Most Trumpers do not consider themselves big spending/big gov't types, I'm pretty sure. Even though that's what MAGA is.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:32 pm to TigerAttorney
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We are past the point of no return. We are better off inflating the debt and keeping the military and navy strong so we control economic policy around the world.
So you support the version of Trumpism that combines the domestic spending/goals of Leftism with the military spending/goals of neocons?
And this is how you define "conservatism"?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:33 pm to Powerman
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So you're saying Trump is ineffective and powerless?
I’m saying the legislative branch had total control of spending. They give the president his slush fund but they have control.
Do you realize congress has not passed a line item budget since 2008? Every budget since then has been a continuing resolution (with the 2008 $800 billion Stimulus still included) with a COLA attached to each CR.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:34 pm to the808bass
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They’re perfectly happy to jettison conservatism for Trumpism
Well Trumpism is the real conservative stance. Didn't you get the memo?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 4:35 pm to GumboPot
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And for some reason the debt is Trump’s fault when 100% of the authority to appropriate and spend money comes from congress.
He signed the spending (which wasn't his first) and then complained they didn't spend more (on vote buying)
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