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Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:38 pm to cajunangelle
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Bottom line I don't trust DC. I don't trust any establishment contender.
You should be all in on Ron then, the non establishment contender. Not the person in charge of 50% of the establishment for 8 years now
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:40 pm to Jjdoc
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He wants to change how it's funded while winding it down.
1. End FICA.
2. Pay benefits from the general fund.
And I don't know where "winding it down" comes from given Trump is against "obliterating" social security.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:50 pm to Jjdoc
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Yeah.... that's NOT his plan
What is his plan? You actually only have a few choices 1) raise taxes 2) change the equation 3) raise the retirement age. Or a combination of the three.
Anything else is pure folly.
I imagine you will go with pure folly.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:55 pm to Bass Tiger
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The government can write myself and the wife one lump sum payout for +45 years of paying Social Security and Medicare taxes with our employers match, add in 4-5% annual growth and we’ll call it good.
Is that Trump’s plan?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:01 pm to Powerman
Answer my question. Are you for entitlement reform? Be specific.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:03 pm to ChineseBandit58
DeSantis voted at least three times to raise Social Security’s full retirement and eligibility age to 70.
This was a resolution to test the waters
DeSantis voted to make changes to how cost of living adjustments were calculated for Social Security
DeSantis voted to switch to “chained-CPI” to measure COLA to Social Security. moving to a chained CPI would have led to a compounding cut in benefits to seniors.
In March 2015, DeSantis voted for raising Social Security’s full retirement age to 70. According to the Republican Study Committee, “This budget proposes to continue a gradual increase of two months per year until the full retirement age reaches 70. Under this plan, for individuals born in 1962, the retirement age would increase to age 67 and two months. The full retirement age will reach age 70 for individuals born in 1979 or later.”
This was a resolution to test the waters
DeSantis voted to make changes to how cost of living adjustments were calculated for Social Security
DeSantis voted to switch to “chained-CPI” to measure COLA to Social Security. moving to a chained CPI would have led to a compounding cut in benefits to seniors.
In March 2015, DeSantis voted for raising Social Security’s full retirement age to 70. According to the Republican Study Committee, “This budget proposes to continue a gradual increase of two months per year until the full retirement age reaches 70. Under this plan, for individuals born in 1962, the retirement age would increase to age 67 and two months. The full retirement age will reach age 70 for individuals born in 1979 or later.”
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:11 pm to GumboPot
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You believe in the ponzi.
The basic positions of the average Trumpist on key issues facing our country are absolutely incomprehensible.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:12 pm to Jjdoc
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DeSantis voted at least three times to raise Social Security’s full retirement and eligibility age to 70.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:14 pm to Jjdoc
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DeSantis voted to switch to “chained-CPI” to measure COLA to Social Security. moving to a chained CPI would have led to a compounding cut in benefits to seniors.
if this reflects a better way to calculate the benefits, then good. Why should they get over-compensated?
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n March 2015, DeSantis voted for raising Social Security’s full retirement age to 70.
Awesome. What's your problem with this phase-in plan?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:15 pm to GumboPot
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So you are saying elect your guy for cuts or elect Trump to do noting which is tantamount to cuts?
We didn’t start this thread, dishonest sack of shite.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:17 pm to the808bass
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The basic positions of the average Trumpist on key issues facing our country are absolutely incomprehensible.
The more you push me on this issue the more black pilled I get. The country is blue pilled on this issue. That’s where the votes are. I will probably be paying into SS until the day I die. My work is who I am. I’d do it as hobby.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Awesome. What's your problem with this phase-in plan?
It changes what the great tax paying citizens were lead to believe.
That's a non starter.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What's your problem with this phase-in plan?
Literally just one thing.
Desantis endorsed it and pushed for it. If it were Trump's plan then they'd be all about it, touting it nonstop.
These people are about as shallow as a puddle of piss on Bourbon Street
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:19 pm to GumboPot
I’m just calling out your utter hypocrisy of criticizing DeSantis for trying to reform Social Security.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:19 pm to the808bass
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We didn’t start this thread, dishonest sack of shite.
Geez, I was just asking for clarification on:
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Doing nothing = SS cuts.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:20 pm to GumboPot
You’re arguing that both paths lead to cuts but Ron’s plan is bad and Trump’s plan is superior.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:21 pm to Jjdoc
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DeSantis voted at least three times to raise Social Security’s full retirement and eligibility age to 70.
This should be applauded. This is what a conservative should do.
If this and other action would have been taken those receiving SS might not be looking at a 25% cut in 10 years.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:24 pm to frogtown
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This should be applauded. This is a conservative should do.
Yes, because it's conservative to steal money from the tax payer based on a promise... broken.
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If this and other action would have been taken those receiving SS might not be looking at a 25% cut in 10 years.
That's just your opinion. You think it's either or. It's not.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 6:26 pm to GumboPot
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Geez, I was just asking for clarification on:
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Doing nothing = SS cuts.
Do you understand? Doing nothing, which is Trump's position, will lead to huge cuts. Yes or No? Just be honest.
Here is more.
"In a recent report, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) highlighted the financial challenges facing Social Security. As the largest program in the federal budget, Social Security is a critical part of our nation’s fiscal picture and vital to millions of elderly recipients. However, without reform, the Social Security Trust Funds will soon be depleted and unable to pay full benefits. According to CBO’s projections:
The Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund, which provides benefits for retired workers and their families as well as deceased workers, will be depleted in 2032.
The Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund, which provides benefits for disabled workers and their families, will be depleted in 2052.
The two trust funds combined would be exhausted in 2033, at which point program benefits would be reduced by 25 percent."
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 6:27 pm
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